Isn’t that just angle above horizon and not angle of attack?
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No that’s legit Pitch angle as it says.
(The AV-8B tactical manual also has the listed max achievable AOA figures for both nozzles aft and nozzles deflected)
However the manual as I understand is export restricted and not clear to post.
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Yeah? pitch angle isn’t the same as AoA. lets say you pitch up 45deg and hold there, you are at a 45 degree pitch from the horizon but have zero angle of attack (not changing direction). it literally says “above the horizon” before saying “pitch angle”.
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only planes that had the option
Well above the horizon refers to maintaining positive climb when coming out of the low speed scissors
What if more? See instructor difference on 190 A5 and A8, and the use of full control in duels
And in mouse aim one have to use neg g to pull less. So much shaking huh
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yes?
a positive climb isn’t angle of attack, you can (as i said before) aim the nose up and have a positive climb without having any angle of attack and having a completely straight trajectory (imagine a rocket going straight up, no angle of attack but climbs very fast). Angle of attack is how many degrees its angled away from the direction of travel, it is what creates the turning motion. Imagine sticking your hand out of the window of a car, holding the hand flat gives zero angle of attack and the hand stays at the same height. angle the hand a bit and you can feel it push up or down, that is the angle of attack how many degrees it turns in relation to the direction the car is moving.
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like this:
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Fair enough if it wants to be perceived as that I can look for more non restricted sources to prove it indefinitely.
It is possible. The tactical manual proves that but as stated probably not good to post so I will not.
why should the dev waste their time to people who refuse to get better control setups? simple answer. they shouldn’t.
also the person above me releasing and quoting info from a “not good to post” source…
I love how out of all the aircraft in this game, the Tonka is getting it :D
That is gunna be fuuuuun!
Prove yourself with a control that can hold a stable gentle pulling itself without losing the accurate pointing capability of mouse aim. simple answer. there’s none.
The guy just likes the attention for his baiting
Nah, i’m pretty sure that one is good.
(Harrier tactics manual: 2nd edition. Orderable at item level | The National Archives)
Although everyone really should include the first page with declassification in every post they make with these types of documents in them, makes it less of a hassle for everyone involved…
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Nec After so many replies what’s your view on the whole thing? :D Any info about dev’s plan?
I think only planes proven to be able to turn of any limiter should get the function in game.
No idea other than what they said in the changelog thread:
you have a skill issue if you cant aim well with a joystick. mouse aim gives an unrealistic advantange and you cant complain about having difficulties with aoa if you get another advantange.
cant get 2 unfair advantanges and expect none “nerfs”
My bad will do in future
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I think a tech mod gave him half of those sources so…
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then he probably shouldn’t say “not good to post”…
I referred specifically to the AV-8B tactics manual
It’s easily findable in its entirety with a small Google search but the restrictions note on the cover makes it complicated.