Since when aiming at weakspots of heavies is a bad thing ?
Since when they changed the APDS penetration. In my experience it has been ureliable at best.
It used to go right through it, but now its iffy.
The issue isn’t having to aim at a weakspot, the isseue is that if you miss you will die unless you get to cover. That has been my experince facing the Is-6 in any French tank.
105mm APDS from Leopard I will pen UFP without an issue, I’ve tried it 10 times and always got a penetration.
This works for basically any tank you encounter.
Of course it seems retarded when you only managed to read the first half of it. Shakespeare might as well be Alex Jones if you cut it in half first. Let’s break it down:
76mm jumbo (6.3) vs IS-6 (proposed 7.3).
Lol. Absolutely lmao. The sheer rofl of it all.
Ok you didn’t like that part because other tanks are getting pooped on because Snail God is bad at br compression. I get it, no one’s gonna fight that unless the snail pays them to.
You just want your tank to do to others what other tanks are doing to you! That’s not balance, that’s trying to buy favor.
There’s the other part. It doesn’t matter if the IS6 is bad in its current BR if moving it down only makes other tanks miserable to play. You might as well just grin and bear it. Address the real issue which is the godforsaken compression nightmare that is 7.0-9.0 GRB. That’s the good fight.
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HEAT fires, pens and fails to kill gunner. IS6 turns and fires APHE. light tank doesn’t get a chance to reload. the gun handling is fine. the IS3/4/6 track base is very stable compared to most of the other 7.7s. Try the T95E1 for comparison.
And if the tank is angled, not straight on, do you shoot the right side, or the shoulder, or the side to get to the gunner? HEAT’s poor postpen (especially early HEAT) is going to give you very small tolerences.
Penning the IS6 ufp with the 105 apds when you aren’t EXACTLY front on is frustrating. Your images are at 100m with no side angling. Trying more realistic scenarios ends up with bounces and shell shatters all over the place.
French tanks vs is6 is heavily in the IS6 favor. Both can pen each other, but the IS6 can shoot anywhere and guarentee a pen and multilpe crew killed where the french 100mm is rolling dice on where it can pen the IS6 back. Given the speed differences, this is a pretty balanced system.
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It won’t fail to kill the gunner if you know where to aim.
Yes if you don’t know where to aim. Area marked in red is quite huge to be honest.
the tank is volumetric hell, but heatfs has no problem with it, apds sometimes.
Ah yes, yet again the argument of 'if you can perfectly aim at the flat surface, its ‘easy’.
This is a premium tank. So start factoring bushes to obscure the surfaces. Then account for the turret aiming toward you, low velocity on most early recoilless HEAT, optics, plate welds, moving, ect.
Now factor that 1/2 the heat slingers around 7.0 are weak enough that you not only have to klil the gunner, but also the commander. Because that 12.7mm is can both transmission and ufp a T92 under 200m and kill a AUBL, Type 60, ratel, or C13 at nearly any range.
If you can’t aim, it’s not IS-6’s issue. It has more than generous weakspots for APDS and HEAT to go through.
You forgot to add to factor in constant 600 ping and 30% PL, right ?
Now factor it’s hull is filled with ammo and basically whenever you shoot you’ll hit it.
is4, yes. IS6, no. shoulders don’t have charges. Go look at the wiki, you can remove the ammo racks in the first 1/2 of the tank by using only racks 1, 2, and 3. If anything, its ammo stowage is much more forgiving than the average tank. Also, the heads are stowed in front of the charges and heads don’t explode. Basically giving you ablative armor if you are using racks 4-5.
ive had issues with it penning in the past however it would be caused by me firing whilst i was below the is6, i was at extreme ranges or the is6 was angled in some way … all situations we’re solved by switching to heat for the follow up shot and nuking the tanks ammo
The IS-6 has finally become like every other heavy tank, in that it’s finally useless in uptiers like everyone else. like other people have said it’s a issue for decompression.
In my experience the IS-6 can’t angle to HEAT or APDS. the instant you angle you’ll expose the hull cheek which is a pen and either OHKO or significant damage. It can’t instantly click on some of the cold war mediums like the M48, and it’s less mobile than the heatslingers which have a shorter reload. Anecdotally, I have even 1-shot the IS-6 through the corner using the M41’s 76mm APDS.
In short, 7.7 is fine. 8.0 would be too high for it, and 7.3 would put it at the same BR as worse heavies (T32, IS-3) and mediums that don’t have much counterplay.
Edit: The IS-6 was probably raised because Gaijin wants to sell the TO-55.
They must have been aware that it was OP at 7.0, but did nothing for years. It went to 7.7 at the same time as the TO-55 was introduced at 8.0… the TO-55 being fully stabilized .3 BR before other mediums get stabilizers. It is pure P2W and Gaijin made no mistake when they added it.
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If he’s even slightly angled, 90mm HEAT can easily disable it’s breech and a few crew members as well.
Killing that thing with anything that isn’t a conventional shell is piss easy.
At least from what I’ve tested, 90mm HEAT performed really great against it, basically in line with 105mm APDS. Shooting slightly to the right when facing it head on will usually OHK the tank.
Tell that do the French 7.3 and 7.7 tanks that can’t pen unless behind
Sounds balanced to me. It’s basically a T32E1 firing APHE that overpressures and has better angle performance.
It also has a very good reverse gear.
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The IS-6 is better than the IS-3 and IS-4M, and it is only worse than the BP premium T-10A.
Why? It can move (as can the T-10A which also has a Sherman 1-plane stabilizer).
7.7 is too high. Stop playing it since…