IS-3 doesn't belong at BR 7.3

Also for funzies, I have penned an IS-3 with ISU-152 while he bounced me XD. He wouldve been slaping his keyboard.


I got the shot trap, and one hit kill, on an IS-3 I was fighting with my Maus…

With the 75mm coax.

I was trying to barrel him, I aimed a little too low, imagine my face when I saw TARGET DESTROYED!

How? How does a HEAT round physically ricochet off the gun mantlet and down into the hull?? Guy got Gaijin’d so hard, I regret not expressing my sympathies to him in chat 😂

That is funny, the trapshot sometimes happen.

The one with better sloped pen. I’ve been told the 471B. I also pack a handful of 471D for dealing specifically with Ferdinands.

It’s the other way around D = APC B = APBC

D has better pen at 0⁰ and 30⁰, B slightly better at 60⁰. B however has over 200g of filler, so that’s the shell I use exclusively.

What are you babbling about? I said I get oneshot by the M60, not the other way around. I don’t think you even read my post.

Man, this reminded me of the most Gaijined thing I’ve done.

Several years ago, was driving a Jagdpanther down the long road of Advance to the Rhine. IS-3 pulled around the corner; I panicked and shot. Shell ricocheted off the ground just in front of the IS-3 and up into the hull floor, knocking him out.

Really wish I had a clip of it XD

right, im saying basically everything gets 1 shot by the m60… so your argument is… stupid. i read all your posts, and lost IQ doing so.

You are a Low level who has very little actual knowledge on the subjects you are talking about… That should be a rule taught by every parent, to every kid. Do not talk about things you are not Sufficiently knowledgeable on. Which again… you are not.

(level doesnt mean Everything. and someone with sufficient knowledge doesnt Have to be max level, but you being relatively low level only adds proof/examples to how and why you are not knowledgeable on these particular subjects)

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jumbo has a stab.
give me a stab for the tiger I and i would fight IS3 anyday of the week.

The T32’s turret/armor is less forgiving than the IS-3.

You can shoot IS-3 barrel from ambush without stab. Also T25 on 6.3 have no stab too, but it can meet is-3.

No, honestly it’s ridiculous that I have to face the IS-3 in my Tiger E. I even have problems pening the IS-3 with my Tiger II (H) sometimes, and facing it with a Tiger E is just ridiculous!

Facing Jagtiger on 75mm jumbo is ridiculous too.

It is. It shouldn’t happen.

At the same time just moving the Jagdtiger to 7.0 means exposing it to more modern stuff again. So the 8.0s also need to become 8.3. But for them to stay competitive, the 9.0s need to become 9.3, and… you get the idea.

That’s the only way to achieve decompression. If the objective was to decompress vehicles that were right below Tiger H1 and Jumbo 75mm by moving the latter from 5.3 to 5.7, I am honestly on board with that, but if there is no domino effect afterwards, you haven’t decompressed, you have just moved the compression spot.

It’s like when plenty of people are sitting on a long bench like the ones you see in a church or something. For someone to get in at the far end, everyone scooches over a little. If you have someone not scooching over, someone in the middle is gonna get squeezed. That’s where the Jumbo 75mm is right now. To help it out without putting other vehicles in the same situation, we need a global decompression by 0.3. Like, I’m not even asking for the moon, to go straight up to 15 BR… even just 0.3 would help so much.

You don’t have to. IS-3 is now 7.3.

Tiger IIs can be quite lolpenny even when in an uptier, and that can lend you a false sense of security when you actually do meet something whose weakspots you need to memorise.

You have thrice the rate of fire of the IS-3. If you know your shot placement, and you make that count, your odds of winning the encounter are pretty good.

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Or just place jumbo on 5.3. Jumbo Jr < Tiger H1/E < Jumbo Sr < Tiger 2. With jumbo on 5.3 it will be 5.3 - 5.7/6.0 - 6.3 - 6.7

Well, they clearly wanted to decompress 4.3 and 4.7. So, yeah, I’m fine wit that but to avoid compressing what you move up, everything else needs to scooch over as well.

Sure, I agree. My point is we need decompression of all those BR’s, cause atm there are a lot of problems with how it’s handled.

Also do you mean by shooting out the IS-3’s barrel, tracks and then killing it? Because frontally, even with a Tiger 2, you literally can only pen it on like a millimeter thin stripe near the drivers hatch i believe. Also yeah I know that now the IS-3 has been moved to 7.3, this post was before that change I believe.

You might be confusing it with the IS4-M.

The long 88 can one-hit kill the IS-3 in three frontal spots. One is the right side turret cheek, the small bulge where IIRC the commander sits. This is a very, very small weakspot to aim for however, especially because the Tiger II doesn’t have the optics of something like the Jagdtiger. So this will only be a factor if you’re really close, or really lucky.

If the IS-3 player is angled, you can also shoot the pike nose, since it’s pre-angled, and an angled hull will thus reduce the angle of engagement considerably. It is also possible to shoot through the UFP if you have an elevation advantage over the IS-3 such that the angle of the UFP is greatly reduced. It does happen on occasion.

The biggest weakspot to target is the frontal shot trap. It’s the biggest shot trap of any tech tree tank in the game. I’ve one-tapped many, many IS-3s like that.

Even so, I will admit I am less confident in the shot trap now, than I used to be. It’s the sort of thing that works wonderfully if you can line up the shot, but if volumetric or turret desync or even simply your aim screw the shot a little bit, you can pay a very heavy price indeed.

So now, I just minmax. I try to aim just below the gun. This way usually you either get the shot trap anyway, or you take out the gun barrel. If you take out the gun barrel, take out the track next, and go for the flank kill. If you can’t go for the flank kill, you can choose between the shot trap and the turret cheek while the IS-3 repairs.

Is it a guaranteed kill? No. You’re still taking on a 7.3 heavy in a 6.7 heavy, and this is War Thunder, not a car factory. There are no guarantees.

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