That is however a primary source, so yes, only one needed.
For the SLM speed we only have third party (not accepted at all unless the other requirements are met by other sources as well) or Secondary sources (at least two needed).
We should be up to two secondary now, but we’ll see what Gunjob says when he’s had time to look into it :)
quick question in the wiki page of the aim9x it says at least 60g but in dev serv only 50g ?
“Not reliable source, get gud” bug report in their words
But we do have a primary source stating the travel time and the range.
Do we really need a primary speed for the exact speed? Mach 3 is unlikely to be the correct speed, too.
I don’t think the missile will have the exact amount of thrust to go to Mach3 so it could be between Mach 2.5 or 3.5 for example.
Primary source for range and time to target should be taken into account.
I mean look at the Rafale. They have literally no idea what the drag value is, had the supercruise number and tweaked the drag to fit it. Now the Rafale has an insanely and unrealistic amount of drag but Gaijin still did it.
I don’t understand why using 2 data points and trying to match the variables is okay in one case but not for the other :/
wiki page is run by volunteers and user made posts So isn’t always up to date or correct. Unless you mean the regular Wikipedia because that isn’t an accepted source.
The DEV server is also work in progress and never final unless explicitly stated by Community managers (and barely even then, dev’s can still make changes after at their discretion).
I found the MSIAC presentation with IRIS-T stating “50g turns reported”, searching the following “MSIAC” “IRIS-T” “50g” filetype:pdf
Surprisingly the same presentation states Reduced smoke for the motor
Yet its still more reliable than their own stats, which they can’t provide where they bring up those imaginary numbers to just nerf NATO equipment
If the primary source doesn’t explicitly state something then it technically isn’t a primary source as you have to make estimates and guesses from the given numbers to get to the stat you want to know about (at least in my opinion). It could likely still be used if several other secondary sources line up with the estimates for example. But i don’t make these decisions and this is just how i have personally understood it to work.
I also know they are not happy about using player made calculations and assumptions as a basis for change.
i don’t understand what you are talking about.
What’s there not to understand? Tell me, I will try to explain
The sentence you wrote doesn’t make sense to me.
Alright, I will try to dumb it down. We provide thousands of sources, which all say pretty much the same that almost all stats are incorrect right now in-game. Yet reporting managers refuse to acknowledge that and pull up their own stats to nerf NATO equipment. They give absolutely zero sources, nothing, and instantly close all reports. Is it clear now?
I mean that the primary source states time to target and range but not the speed.
It’s still a primary source. For a Tank for example the primary source doesn’t need to include the velocity of a projectile if it includes the exact penetration data and the speed is known via different sources, right?
So in this case we know the range, time to target and have secondary sources for the speed. They could just see if it matches up.
What I don’t get is how they are so stubborn. They have chosen the same speed for the missile although it has a stronger and bigger rocket engine and is supposed to have 3 times the range.
They assumed a speed that makes the ingame missile incapable of even reaching half it’s effective range and call it a day?..
There is not really any point in arguing though. We can only hope that there are some people on the Dev team capable of logical thought and common sense.
A missile that falls out of the sky at less than 30km, doesn’t strike me as having an “effective” range of 40km vs maneuvering targets…
I’ve seen 2 or perhaps maximum 3 Accepted sources that state mach 3 speed.
No? where have they done that? I haven’t seen anything like that at least.
Maybe cool off a little?
Necro isn’t doing this, he is actively helping to get sources. You are attacking him for no reason. Also “thousands” of sources is a gross overmispresentation. It’s often the same source cited in other sites and some of the sources are relly sketchy as well. We only got a couple of decent ones at most.
i mean the SLM is a prime example where they are doing it right now the fact it cant even go 40 km ( or even engage a target coming in from 40km that isnt going mach2 ) is proof of that
i hope in the end 2 snd techmod is having a look at our 4 sources
But you know the problem is more complicated, was the missile launched when the target was 30km away? Or did it hit the target when it reached 30km distance. It’s all pretty vague
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since when did the AH1Z fires IRIS-T SLMs?
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