Even if that was true,
I would like you to look at the Mig29 and Su27 flight model
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Yes I know. But then again, there is a lot of info about the speed of the drones used. There could be 2 different ones. Even the faster one gives a travel distance of 27km due to reaching a height of 12km.
So even if the Drone was flying at max speed towards the Iris-T SLM it would be faster than it is right now ingame.
Coupled that ingame it does not loft to 12km… If the targett was that close then why does it not climb that high ingame? Because it can’t… It runs out of energy
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A: cool, who asked for it?
B: this is the IRIS-T SLM thread, aka 9X is off-topic…
I would like to look at still inaccurate ADATS, inaccurate abrams, inaccurate usa jets, lets not even begin with german leopards, eurofighter.
As i have previously said about the “time to target” source: it doesn’t really say anything at all and can give a ridiculous range of numbers as a result for the speed depending on what assumptions you make about the target and it’s movement.
The secondary sources should in my opinion be accepted though, hopefully they are once Gunjob has taken a look at them.
Which could possibly be reasonable if for example the only improvement the makers aimed for was range (so a motor with longer burn time but less thrust for example).
Doesn’t necessarily have to do with max speed though, it could be to short burn time of the engine, it could be to much drag or to much speed lost in turns etc. there are many factors that could be the reason for the inadequate range. The range reports have also to my knowledge been accepted as well.
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correct, aswell as the Time to target one :)
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Yeah it’s frustrating honestly. I hoped for SLM to have at least similar range as Pantsir. Plus the missile at the end of the day is an IR missile which can be flared fairly easily from my testing.
You probably didn’t flare them, but rather out pulled it, after it was out of energy
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i feels like stingers are more effective at closer ranges
btw if in the end we cant change the speed, we already have another source from germany stating a MAX range of 50km correct?
this is a source from Austria wich is aquiring the SLM aswell also stating a range of a max range of 50km do you think those together would be 2 seconday sources? since austria is getting the SLM
in the end it has to get them to adjust the kinetic energy of the missile atleast
(https://www.bmlv.gv.at/pdf_pool/publikationen/hauser_eusicherheit_10_auflage_ci_webversion_v3.pdf)
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Iris-t SLS can do some insane stuff at close range
It wont be better that Pantsir at this state. At the end only Russia is strong and all NATO equipment is very weak and underperforming, according to Gaijin
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Flaring them from front-aspect while they were being fired at ~8km. Their booster was still working
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To be fair longer burn and less thrust can indeed end up making it go the same speed, I however question this by simply stating that they came up with a aerodynamic cap to increase range and also specifically to shield the sensor from the heat from flying at high speeds.
The standard IRIS-T missile can already fly a really long time at really high speeds and doesn’t need it. So why does this need it? My guess is for the increased speed and therefore heat, but yeah this is complete speculation on my end.
And for the primary source: Yes there is a wide range of values possible, BUT even the lowest number doesn’t match up with what we have currently and that’s when we pretend the targeting drone flew at max speed towards the target. So there is a lot of math involved but even the worst case scenario shows better values.
I do understand the devs can’t take this as a simple source, but I hope that some of them look at it and try to recreate it to some extend. Maybe they can find a reasonable solution. I’d take Mach 2 top speed when it still matches other points, due to loft profiles, less drag or more burn time.
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The booster burning doesn’t really make any difference, they are just that slow compared to what they should be
It’s not an IR missile. It’s an infra red imaging missile. Different approach and the pretty much impossible to flare.