They advertised the new SPAA’s from that patch to keep far to powerful CAS in check. CAS jets spamming KH cruise missiles was a true menace, back then. It worked for less than a patch cycle and Iris was nerfed to a state where cas has again total an utter dominance. Even worse, since they added LMURs, additionally to KH-38. Fired from invincible heli platforms.
Now, 2 patches after Iris, every GRB match getting clobbered by russian CAS into non-existence. Players are annoyed. Bailing the match. Even leaving vehicles, when they notice its again going down the drain cause of enemy CAS/helis.
Dunno…whats so bad when in a ground game jets / helis have a difficult life? It surely can’t stay like this. Can’t imagine its fun, wenn everyone just leaves match. Also Ru groundplayers are likely affected, when Suchois and Mi-28 kill off most things.
They even upped spawn costs for missile SPAAs. This on top… and then it doesn’t really work …
The code now just gives the helicopter a force field that doesn’t even check for line of sight. I even had some missiles get redirected when the helicopter went behind a mountain a few nights ago. It’s just lazy coding.
Yeah proper DLIRCM will take a while to be implemented to an acceptable stage as it is an extremely complex system IRL and more so for the game, it’s probably going to take a while. SLM enjoyers can skip this update, I won’t be touching it until the situation improves.
Well, it’s worth a try 🥀 https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/RCvUA7EkgQkV
It baffles me that they had the audacity to reduce the terminal phase to just 4 km in all scenarios when we know for a fact that SLM uses an improved seeker. So the terminal phase should be 10 km for long range targets.
Gayjin really wanted that sekrit dokumintz no matter what. I want to ask that bug mod “which one source currently Gayjin use for that 4km then? Show us the primary source (manuals) or the secondary source”.
Which one engineer designer will give 9-12km seeker to something that only works 4km? This logic so absurd. If the cap still intake and only jettisoned after 4km, the engineer must be thinking and will use garbage seeker that only works for 6km or less which is cheaper than using better seeker. The most logical is the cap will jettison once the seeker already in range where the seeker can track then hit the target. If the target too cold or can’t be seen by the seeker (but still detected by the radar) the cap will still jettisoned but the missile will stay in IOG/DL until the seeker can see the target (since air friction can cause a heat).
Hey, I’m currently out of time. I suggest you making a report based on that one interview with IRIS-T manufacturer that stated that they get a view of the target for the last 10 seconds of guidance. Which is considering a speed of the missile (mach 3) would suggest the distance of at least 10km. I don’t remember the speed and direction of the target they were firing at. Now hear me out.
I think what those shameless bastards did - is using that very interview but with their data that they came up with out of the blue.
So, look, we can get a 4km lock range ONLY if we would presume that IRIS-T would be chasing a target that is moving at MACH 2. The speed of IRIS-T SLM is MACH 3. So the approach speed equals to MACH 1. We convert MACH 1 to m/s (343) and multiply it by 10 (3430) so 3.4 km and they roughly made it 4.
However. if target is stationary (say moving perpendicular relatively to a missile, for example a target drone with speed so low that it’s negligible - the distance missile covered during this time would be 10km.
Now to why it’s stupid. First - the claim of 10sec is pretty hard to find rn and it was purged out of existence almost everywhere. But I think you can use wayback machine for that. Second - the thing itself doesn’t say anything about the cone jettison distance since they’re used targeting drone for that. That is not that big, that hot and that fast as a fighter jet. Third is that they’ve used the worst case scenario - which means a missile targeting a cold target at full speed, which is incredibly unlikely.
Honestly, what makes no sense to is why would SLM have an improved seeker, yet it’s not being fully utilized to track targets at long distances
Right now these two stats are now irrelevant
SLM Stat Card
Both rear aspect and front aspect range are basically meaningless, because of the 4 km seeker activation range, so for all intent and purposes, the lock range was reduced to “4” km. The missile should be able to acquire and track targets the moment it gets in range of the seeker.
This is what pisses me off the most, the fact that they sold this feature as a IRCM rejection improvement was a freaking lie, if they wanted to improve IRCM rejection they would’ve given IRIS-T DL+IOG guidance throughout its entire flight time.
We improved IRIS-T guys, trust us :)
Notice even after the tail was destroyed, the missiles were still being deflected lol
Thank you for not letting me protect my team in my 12.7 SPAA…
Sad to see how bad this thing is right now. It’s so bad that I even get more kills with the Flarakrad than with the IRIS-T SLM, and that’s sad. I don’t know why they changed the seeker, but 4 km is not realistic 10–20 km is real. Everything below that is fake or Gaijin “top-secret documents,” I don’t know. I think it needs to be reset to 10 km; without that, the missile flies in every direction except toward the target.
Does the German community lack such organizers? I’ve observed the Chinese community, where forum administrators compile issues and materials, centrally provide feedback, and follow up on them. This ensures that GAIJIN does not take them lightly. In contrast, GAIJIN arbitrarily weakens German vehicles without garnering much attention.
the hell did they even mean by “we are considering adding limitations”
as if thats a balancing decision???
the thing can only shine its laser at one seeker at a time
This is how IRIS-T would work against IRCM, the seeker would just shut off and the missile would carry on DL+IOG. A report was made about the lack of DL guidance on the terminal phase, lords knows when they act on it.
When your broken game accidentally depicts the missile correctly.
Like what the f*ck is the point of IRIS-T anymore after everyone gets LDIRCM this next update?
They should quit sugarcoating the situation and remove it from the game, since there is no way of balancing it. Gaijin was grinding their teeth out at the idea of IRIS-T being in the game and knew this missile was busted and ahead of everything else in the game. Just remove it like they did with the Maus and replace it with a Patriot system or another ARH from the DDR or whatever.
