Iris-t slm

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also seems to be much easier to spoof the DL if you flying at an angle sideways while firing off zunis

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Idk that’s up to Gaijin to decide, i just hope we get a LDIRCM counter that’s not SACLOS.
LDIRCM would be way less of an issue if they added as little as seeker shutoff when detecting LDIRCM

And staying near ground to be able to dip into cover would still be effective in countering an SLM with DL

yea basically when youve fired off all missiles at what you wanted, do a hard left or hard right while firing off zunis/ffars/s8s/etc. and you have a very high chance of once again spoofing the missile lock from your plane to your rocket and then just fly defensive while breaking LOS so any follow up missiles are stuck in IOG

In essence its neither an improvement nor a full on nerf

They could just give helis proper radar returns then you would have IR SPAAs that’s really good against planes and ARH SPAA against helis so teamplay and different tech trees would actually complement each other

No i mean to play against

Yeah or that, if ARH Spaa weren’t so useless against them as well.

They don’t. Ldircm starts working vs iris-t missile only at a distance of 500m from the helicopter. This change could not affect the ldircm - missile interaction in any way.

really i have toptier russsia and germany and russias reallly no sufer and is one the best nation in toptier yeah no have reverse speed and depression but much thime -5,6 grade is fair enought i played 2 maches with russia and t90m taakes much shot and no pen… t90m,bvm is so good same with russia cas is the best now mi28 is the best helicopter single shot targets buk 3 aagaij good russia have good or best vehicles in toptier and u say" winrate doesnt say anything "?

Did you guys did any tests with bigger things, like bombs?

bro 42% imagine now lol

You’d have to be a complete idiot to die to IRIS-T now, seriously, the only way you’d die is if you stay painted by the radar for long enough. And with Mavericks, Kh-38MT ← fake and Hammers standoff range you have plenty of breathing room to dump your volley of missiles and GTFO without ever being close enough to be locked by the missile’s seeker.

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Not just that. Just read something about LMURs. Its written the missile mainly has anti structure use. Documented vs. small ponton bridges, storage facilities and buildings. Wounder whether its really possible to thermal lock a ground vehicle from 20km away with Lmur…

LMUR is MITL and modeled as IR in game, so it can be used against a soldier in practice as well

No surprise, I knew the ingame one is fake as well. Same as KH-38.

No wounder. When you read up OSINT sources, they estimate LMUR has been used like 200 times during the war. In 3 years just these few launches…clearly indicates its a special missile for strategic and operative targets, rather than a battlefield weapon which is launched against vehicles in the throusands.

Thats why Russia is so strong ingame. They have made up stuff.

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It can be used against vehicles as well, it’s a MITM missile with a IIR imager, it can lock and track onto any target that the gunner sees on their display. In game it is just modeled as a run of the mil IR seeker.

It’s not fake, it is IR in real life as well, but the max range is only achieved using MITL, it’s just a thing for in game use.
The JAGM shouldn’t be able to lock a target at any range using IR either, it’s used in Laser mode then it acquires the target once close enough

Well that’s the predicament Kh-38s find themselves right now, the gunner just launches the missile at stand-off range, the IR seeker can’t track or see targets before launch, it’s a thermal imager aid for terminal guidance.

Gaijin could’ve reduced the IIR generation and resolution and reduced the lock range to 5 km, to at the very least simulate the terminal guidance of the missile, since we don’t have LOAL modeled yet.

Ofc it is. Ingame it locks you up from over 20km away. Something it just can’t irl. I guess Mi-28 has not even a target optics to spot a vehicle from that far away.

Ofc you can name it: “They model …”. But at the end its a lie.

It’s not fake bro… It’s been fielded in Ukraine, the gunner sees a TV feed on their MFDs and they just control the missile mid-flight to the target. In game it’s just modeled as a IR lock and point lock would be the closest thing to man-in-the-loop guidance for it.