Iris-t slm

As much as these would be nice in-game, we do got to take into account how these are pretty much completely new systems and not everything fancy like this can be implemented just yet. I would much rather talk about top issues/bugs atm then theorise if they could add something to the buggy mess these are.

My top things to fix:

  1. Proxy/He/Air Gun - 0 Dmg and not proxying. Including guidance (I’ve mostly seen this on the 9X interestingly enough.)
  2. Normal functioning TWS radar for ground. Showing all detected targets.
  3. No switching to new targets when they pop in, and prio. the one locked before.

As for adding, I would really like the radar to actually update quicker as it should be, and have it be like irl, as currently it’s modelled quite poorly and is rushed. (As are other new radars, but this is the SLM thread.)

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The Iris-T is nowhere close to that in the game. The air launched version is the same as the one on the Elde 98. It’s hardly functional, doesn’t go to even 10km and doesn’t pull Gs anywhere close to the AIM-9X on the SLAAMRAM, which was stated as pulling 50Gs, let alone 60Gs.

So no, it won’t be as good as you described, as much as I would like it to be.

Yeah, even IRIS-T SLM oftenly miss target from 2-10km, and the main issue when short range is the missile loft 2 times make it become a jk. And I still have no idea how and what range this missile will use IR seeker, it keep say DL+IOG in replay until it really close with target make the missile less effective when you trying to search enemy while hiding at same time. And the missile become more dumb when against DIRCM, instead of using DL, it just use IR seeker against DIRCM.

It’s not consistent at all. I’ve seen missiles being guided almost all the way by IOG after losing radar lock shortly after launch. It doesn’t turn on the IR until like 2km away.

The only fact I know for sure is that if the target is under 8km from the launcher then the IR seeker will start tracking immediately.

did anyone already make bug report about binocular camera that keep started from front direction instead from camera (aim) direction? It keep happened when first time using bino and after switch vehicle.

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I just saw something really weird. As you can see in the video, the 2nd missile that was launched pulled some insane AoA (86.9 degrees) a bit after the launch that it killed all its speed before started intercepting normally.

When launched from a plane a missile has significantly more range than a ground launched version

yea no sh… sherlock but it’s still not gonna make 30km unless you’re 10km up. The busted missile you described will not exist in this game unless it’s Russian.

So it is not worth pursuing this conversation with you any further

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yes, people who does not understand the game should not participate in conversations about content, mechanics and balance

bait used to be belivable

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glide range has left the chat.

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why is the iris-t able to lock onto bombs? They have a negligible IR signature

Gaijin has spoken about this, they acknowledge the IRIS-T and other such missiles having IIR guidance HOWEVER, they haven’t made plans to add it to any missile. It’s intentional and will be modeled at some point likely when there is a counterbalance for this feature

IRIS-T has multiple ways to guide to the target. IRL the missile seeker only turns on at a terminal TRK phase so it’s technically not guiding to the bomb with IR it’s just using IOG + DL to calculate where it will intercept before searching with a seeker but idk if it’s tracking with IR in Warthunder that’s how it “should” work

I don’t even know at what range the IR seeker turns on at this point. Was testing in customs. There was a heli 4km away from me. I launched at him but it was in IOG+DL guidance. The seeker doesn’t turn on until the missile does a 180?!

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Even if negligible, it should be able to lock on even at rather great distances. An IIR seeker doesn’t really lock onto a heat signature but onto an object distinguished in the Infrared Picture of the seeker. Especially with a cooled IR seeker a difference of 1 Kelvin to the sourroundings (heating by air friction) will be a more than good enough contrast to distinguish a target reliably and follow it through clutter.

Think of an IIR seeker more like an image recognition seeker just in the IR range of the spectrum, which literally means “Imaging Infrared Seeker”. It’s not going for a “heat source” exactly but for a distinguished heat signature which doesn’t have to be the hottest in its field of view.

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Hold your horses until the best Leopard 2 is not Swedish anymore.

Their CaS up until this point…
Only thing halting it.

so after playing some more with the iris-t i will go back and use the flarakrad
in its current state the iris t is compleatly usless they prefer the ground more than the jets
the radar just dosent work 90% of the time and any thing under 15km range wil not get hit because gaijin nefed how much g this thing can pull
not to mention that this thing refuses to lock on the helicopters under 300m alt