When operator Bundeswehr writes about its own system on its own public website it better should be accepted. Same for Diehl Defence, the producer.
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I tried looking through their sites, as far as i could see they don’t mention much in terms of stats/numbers other than the range.
And the height. Max speed. So you have the raw specs and just make it work ingame. What else are you looking for? Its an active, new system … you won’t find the manual or more detailed specs. Especially if the system is used in an active war. Asking for more sources is not really realistic. You either go with third party infos and infos from miltec communities or you can’t introduce these systems ingame.
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Max range and max height are already reported and accepted.
Max speed is the thing we’ve had the largest issues finding sources for. if you have a page on either of those to websites that mention top speed then please link it. We’ve been searching for days x)
Here is everything we have so far:
I should clarify, by “we” i mean the other users in that thread, not Gaijin. I’m not involved in the decisions nor development for the game :P Game Masters only handle in-game chat and name bans.
And still have :(
Pls Dev who sees the Time to target and range report, count 1+1 together…
Hmm, did somebody try to ask how the respective military defines “effective range”, like the swiss military from their SLM test? Would be curious if they have a strict or clear definition of that which could be published like “at least Mach 1 to have enough energy to engage a manouvering subsonic target at a given height”.
The moment we have this definition the rest will be easy as there are enough sources which state “effective range”.
Dunno. Everyone states its mach 3 capable. Even ordinary German TV. Like this WELT report, one of Gers most important News network. You can see this at breakfest @ TV. But Gajin knows better I guess.
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At least you’re not getting stuck with 10km bugged missiles like the SPYDER :/
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I don’t think that is considered an accepted source either sadly. Unless it can be proven that the graphic was provided by Diehl .
WELT is not a trust worthy source.
Definitly not since Axel Springer bought WeltN24 in 2015 and it became “Bild 2.0” xD
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Its just an example that just everyone talks about mach 3 for Iris T SLM. Even ordinary morning TV. There must be hundrets of third party homepages. Brochures and Interviews claiming this.
What secret document claims that SLM reaches 40km effective combat range with just the anemic speed WT allows it to have? Where is this claim from?
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The thing is that almost all sources i’ve seen so far for speed aren’t considered reliable. If you have anything substantial to add in terms of source then please do so. I don’t really have the time to deep dive into the search anymore. I found some complementary sources two days ago that got sent as suggestions at least. but it took me a couple of hours of active searching to find.
(If interested: Iris-t slm - #754 by Necronomica )
Speed of that missile is likely confidential. Means you won’t find a primary source. If there’s no primary source, you’ll go with secondary ones. Use sources from miltec geeks etc.
Whats the problem? All war games handle it like that, if they introduce modern units with classified specs. Gajin is the only company which handles it that complicated and asks for stuff which is impossible to dig out.
Still interested to know what super primary source Devs use for their current Iris flight model. Where do they get their infos from?
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Gaijin is out their minds if they think the community is going to find any firs party source that’s been made publicaly avaialible, I think their standards for systems as modern and new as IRIS-T should have exceptions. Secondary and third party sources that compliment secondary sources should be used for modeling systems like these.
And since IRIS-T SLM is being deployed in an active warzone, I doubt such system specs will be made available to the public for at least the next 5 or 10 years. So I say again, the standard and requirements for sources should be lowered to make room for proper modeling and to be released up to a standard that is up to par with Pantsir.
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They wont do that, and we all know why. At the end of the day they won’t care how butchered an implemented vehicle is because they can do whatever they want or think is right
and where are your sources for making such shitty missiles ? It works on both way you know
New AA system are all underperforming while they could counter KH38 toxic meta, and gaijin decided to give GPS guidance to KH38.
New AA DOA
“there is no russian bias” “skill issue”
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You are Aware that Necro is on our side?
Sadly hes just an Game master and not THE dev who works on the SLM…
He was trying with us to find stuff for Mach 3
“source is need to change the speed”. so… what source gaijin using to making these nerfs in iris since no source shows the speed correctly?
btw, still waiting for the source where proves the existence of the kh38
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