🔸The existing image of an F-4E fighter jet carrying the new missile is a good one for fantasy measurements. Assuming the F-4E is 19.2 meters long, the new missile would measure about 365 centimeters long and about 18 centimeters or less in diameter.
🔸The above dimensions are very close to the dimensions of the AIM-120 missile in the C-5/6/7 version, including a length of 365 cm and a diameter of 17.8 cm. In addition, the overall design and configuration of the missile wings also confirm the great similarity of the new missile to the AIM-120C air-to-air missile.
🔸The AIM-120 C-5/6/7 series missile has a maximum range of 90 to 160 km and more. To estimate the range of this new missile, we must have more detailed information about the internal design and arrangement of the missile subsystems such as the engine, guidance rack, warhead, seeker, etc., but assuming access and reverse engineering of this series of AMRAAM missiles, a range of +80 km can be imagined for this new missile.
I’ve been looking into this all day, from what I can tell I have the following conclusions:
1: it’s clearly based on the Aim-120 series (no idea why everyone online is saying Aim-120C in particular, they’re the same dimension’s) and other western (or Chinese) ARH missiles. Similar to the Aim-120C-2 and later AMRAAMs it has rear clipped fins, but the forward fins are not.
2: Given its coloring this is clearly an indigenous missile being developed by and for Iran.
3: its name, capabilities, and platforms intended for its use are still unknown at this time.
4: It’s notably using a unique adapter rail mounted on the underwing pylons. Unless they modify the phantoms and other aircraft for its use in the future, it appears the phantoms and tomcats (maybe F-5s as well) would only be capable of using 2 at a time, and for the Iranian phantoms it also limits their ability to use any R-73s as well since they’re mounted in the same way.
I forget but I also think that in this configuration the aircraft would be able to mount Aim-9s as well as these missiles on the same pylon. As it’s been seen now a configuration of 4 sparrows, 4 sidewinders, and 2 of these new missiles should be possible (assuming the new radar is capable of being used with sparrows that is).
These are probably the last years we’ll see the F4s flying, because the Iranians are buying Chinese aicrafts. I would love to see how they will modify the J10 etc, it could be another unique vehicle for the TT
I dont like the idea of Iran being a subtree.
Even if the air tech tree is not as big as the UK one for exemple, we can stillfill it with sub trees, and keep Iran as a full tech tree.
Hello Darkplane55
I don’t like Iran to be a subtree, but it’s a fact and it’s undeniable, so instead of denying it, let’s show the Gaijin what we have as a subtree .
Its not about denying it, but the exact opposite, putting Iran as a subtree is a wasted opportunity.
We must show them the potential of the idea, and not encourage them to take the easy way out by putting Iran as a quick fix for another country’s tech tree
I don’t think the idea is very interesting, Iran’s air or ground military units are lacking, but as a subtree I can say it could really be a good thing if they brought everything Iran has into the game…
Ground is actually very complete, except for very low ranks, but its not the first TT with that issue, and we can fill the holes in the air TT with subtrees.
I also find kinda weird that as an iranian you want to see you country as a subtree …?
Both the Su-25K’s and UBK’s were upgraded by Iran to a equivalent standard to the SM1 variant. Using largely domestic Air to Ground Guided ordinances and avionics
Adding the Gaza would be the gateway to Iran’s vast drone arsenal and would be an excellent alternative to Russian, Chinese, or American drones in the game.
Btw the Pirooz can use Almaz ATGM (Iranian Upgraded Spikes, the Amlaz 4 has between 25 and 35km of range in the best conditions) and has a top speed of 130 ~140 km/h.
Since we all love fast vehicles, this one can be the ultimate light vehicle
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I love the idea for this for a few reasons, and I was honestly going through the process of making a suggestion for it myself before finding yours. I think this would be a great option because it would help to lessen the Western lean in terms of the nations already in game since the only true Eastern-leaning nations currently are the USSR and China (and even China is split between equipment of Eastern and Western origins). It would also provide more regional representation to the Middle East. However, I think the most interesting thing that could come from it is the possibility for a subtree of insurgent or non-state actor equipment. They’d obviously have to avoid mentioning real-world organizations (games like Squad have taken a similar route) due to the absolute nightmare of a political firestorm that could bring if they were included by name, but that could give them a way to add technicals, which could prove to be especially interesting now that infantry is coming to the game. I think that last point, while the most interesting in my eyes, is probably the least likely. Iran is definitely in my top 5 when it comes to what tech trees I’d like to see added in the future, with Egypt (+Arab League), Poland (+Eastern Europe), Yugoslavia (+Post-Split Balkans), Brazil (+Latin America) being the other 4 (also Korea, but they already confirmed that was coming). I’m a US main primarily, but I play everything, so I love seeing more variety in both what I use and what I face.
War Thunder is a realism-oriented game that is fundamentally structured around distinct national factions.
However, at the current stage of the game, there is a serious lack of factions capable of balancing the Western bloc. At present, Russia and China are essentially the only nations that can be considered non-Western major powers. As a result, battles have become highly homogenized, frequently devolving into internal Western-versus-Western conflicts, which significantly reduces gameplay variety and long-term interest.
As the game’s timeline continues to advance, moving steadily toward modern warfare and with Infantry gameplay expected to be introduced in the future, Iran and its associated subtrees clearly represent one of the most suitable options:
Iran belongs to the anti-Western camp.
Iran is a principal adversary of Israel.
War Thunder currently lacks sufficient representation of vehicles from the Middle East. The inclusion of Iranian subtrees would allow for the integration of a substantial portion of Middle Eastern vehicles. In particular, due to decades of prolonged conflict, many armed groups in the region operate highly distinctive, improvised wartime-modified vehicles (DIY or “technicals”). These vehicles do not fit well into any existing tech tree in War Thunder, and the Iranian tech tree would provide the most appropriate home for them.
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As Israel’s primary regional competitor, Iran is also a significant military-industrial power. Some dedicated players have already outlined comprehensive blueprints for a potential Iranian tech tree suitable for inclusion in War Thunder. Therefore, today I would like to propose several countries and factions that could reasonably be introduced as subtrees under the Iranian tech tree:
Syria – Assad Regime 🇸🇾
Lebanon – *Lebanese armed group 🇱🇧
Yemen – *Yemeni armed group 🇾🇪
Palestine – *Palestinian armed group 🇵🇸
Iraq – Popular Mobilization Forces 🇮🇶
Geopolitical Relations – Afghanistan 🇦🇫
Geopolitical Relations – Qatar 🇶🇦
Geopolitical Relations – *removed 🏴☠️
Geopolitical Relations – *removed 🏴☠️
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(Although the *removed 🏴☠️ is hostile toward Iran, this does not necessarily prevent it from being included as part of the Iranian tech tree—much like the relationship between Taiwan and China within the game. Moreover, it is not impossible that the Islamic Republic of Iran could, in the future, fragment into multiple localized factional entities, creating opportunities for other forces, such as the *removed 🏴☠️, to expand their influence.)
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Geopolitical Relations – Somalia – *removed 🇸🇴
Geopolitical Relations – Somali Pirates 🏴☠️
Overseas Cooperation – Sudan 🇸🇩
Overseas Cooperation – Tajikistan 🇹🇯
Overseas Cooperation – Libya – Gaddafi Regime 🇱🇾
Overseas Cooperation – Pakistan 🇵🇰
Overseas Cooperation – Venezuela 🇻🇪
Overseas Cooperation – Cuba 🇨🇺
Overseas Cooperation – North Korea 🇰🇵
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(Just as Canadian vehicles can appear in both the U.S. and British tech trees, Pakistan and North Korea could simultaneously exist within both the Chinese and Iranian tech trees; similarly, Cuba and Venezuela could be shared between the Soviet and Iranian tech trees.)
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