So from 10.7 to 11.3 there’s a bunch of jets that only get IR missiles that have to go up against fox 1’s pretty much every match. I get that this is basically the problem at top tier but scaled down, but it still the same problem. In fact its also the exact same problem with SPAA at top tier (Pantsir outranging everyone else).
How exactly are you supposed to approach the game when the enemy has exponentially higher kill radius than you do? I pretty much have to get within gun range to kill someone with r60ms if they are paying attention, but a starstreak? Thats what 5km away in a lot of cases you aren’t dodging it.
I learned it the hard way when I buy J-7D instead of waiting for F4S to be on sale, that I should have bought F-4 Junk or Mirage f1, but sometimes the best method to engage with Fox 1 is to not engage at all, don’t be in their general FoV, avoid being merked by not getting in the fight too early, just wait and pounce.
Depends on what radar they have. If it is regular radar, you can just use chaff and counter them. With PD, you can still counter with chaff you have to notch too.
The other method is to hit the deck and use multipathing to cause their missile to hit the ground.
I know but at certain launch ranges you don’t have time to notch, and those launch ranges are significantly higher than your IR missles would have a similar kill chance.
Im asking more in general how do you approach a match with that in mind, fly low? Stay with team? Climb? How/what/where do you engage, etc.
I usually stay away from the main group and take a low alt approach. The large groups and high alt climbers attract the enemy’s attention and they will focus on those.
I come in from the side right after the furball starts which allows me to sneak in some IR shots.
I actually started spading MiG-21Bis SAU after the MP and BR changes and i think its now better than ever when it doesnt face F-16s, and it is technically only IR carrier (R-3R is meme more than anything).
I run 2x R-13M1s for tail chase shots, and 4x R-60MKs. Air belts, flares chaff 2:1.
I usually go for a long flank, flying nap of the earth till i reach middle of map and then turn towards the middle.
It is true that at under certain distances you dont have time to notch but thats just part of the game and problem with positioning. Unless PD phantoms nail you in the headon at those distances, they are essentially screwed since you beat them in one circle.
I gave up on the mig27 and am just hiding in sim. Really wish there was more to do in sim than base bomb (Im way too shit for PvP). Ground targets aren’t worth interacting with unless you have guided weapons, and there really isnt much AI planes or anything to interact with.
Its an attacker that can’t ground pound or make it to baes before the swarm of phantoms etc.I never once made it to a base in that thing in the dozen or so RB games I subjected myself too.
Giving things BRs based on their ground weapons is dumb, and now that we have separate BRs for ground for planes even more so.
The nose camera on the 27k is incredible in sim, my terrible ass can actually ID planes with it (i did just kill a friendly AI saber that was on russian side for some reason though).
This makes no sense seeing as aircraft like the Mirage F1(R530F’s arent even worth mentioning as they suck) with Magic 2’s, F5E with AIM-9J Thai F5E with AIM-9P-4 and Python 3 and J7E with Pl-5 are all dominating without radar missiles. Then theres aircraft with radar missiles that are also struggling, F4 Junk with skyflash F4C with AIM-7D etc.
Because you mentioned R60M’s im assuming your using the MiG-21Bis. In this case, its not the missiles holding you back, its your FP. The MiG-21 used to be the fastest at its br, now its not, its engine is plently powerful but the airframe cannot handle the high speeds and will break apart, with the MiG-21, i bring 5 r60m’s and 1 r13 or 4 r60ms 1 r3r and 1 r13, the r60 is pretty short range so the r13 gives it more rear aspect range, and the R3R is radar guided so it gives you a bit longer range headons, also phantoms cannot detect your launch.
are r73s just going into a spin and dying when at low speeds a bug or is it like that now? also seems like all top tier ir missiles are more flare hungry
France top tier is insanly good right now, the mirage 2000 cs4/5 at their br are amazing, mirage f1 at its br is amazing, mirage 2000-5f is really fun with the MICA, and it has the second best F16 in the game
Also the mirage f1-200 is much better than it used to be, it can actually turn fight now and the magic 2’s are incredibly powerful