I like the green, don’t know why.
You’re distorting the concepts again, shifting the blame for the game company’s mistakes onto us—we refuse to bear this responsibility. It was clearly Gaijin who first stirred up political issues, yet you’re framing it as if we caused the problem and portraying Gaijin as the victim.
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You’ve seen what Chinese players stick on their vehicles — what does that have to do with political sensitivity? And what about those players who flaunt political symbols, or the right-wing Japanese players and what they stick on theirs? If you want to argue, just say so directly. Stop pretending to be some innocent “white lotus” here.
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It’s okay it’s not your fault. You want to stop Thailand from having VT4. It’s Gaijin’s fault. Us Thai players have to “endure” this mistreatment. I don’t blame Chinese players for crying about Thai tanks in Thai branch. China has complete authority on who gets to have what tanks. We need to consider their feeling more than our country’s equipment.
Sybau. I want to play my Thai tanks, in my Thai lineup. I don’t want 1or 2 tank missing because people from other country are crying and whining.
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I understand how you feel, but discussing politics in a game is one of the most foolish ideas some players can have — like bringing up sensitive names or using inflammatory symbols such as those referencing Unit 731 or shouting “Long Live Japan.” Gaijin claims it doesn’t allow this kind of behavior in the game, but what actually happens? Their enforcement is lax. If no one reports those players, they’ll keep taunting others freely during battles without restraint.
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So wait, how does this not entirely debase your entire reasoning for the VT-4 not being added to Japan via Thailand?
If we don’t want to bring politics into it, why protest?
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Can y’all stop… 🥺
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You might wanna calm down with this one.
It hasn’t been overturned. The quote you mentioned was just a hypothetical scenario on my part—after all, these decisions are ultimately up to Gaijin. All I can do is protest. If things don’t change, then I’ll have no choice but to quit playing the game.
If only I could change Gaijin’s mind just by getting worked up. Right now, it’s all just useless anxiety - there hasn’t even been a second response from Gaijin.
Fundamentally, putting Thai in JP instead of putting SK in JP caused this issue, and VT4 only one of the many and growing list of CN vehicles RTA uses. Really should have cobbled together an ASEAN (and other associated regional minors) tree to put both Thailand and Singapore in.
In fact, the game would be very well served by having a “regional minors” tree for for each continent. It avoids all of this and solves some incredibly forced sub-trees. But more trees = longer queue times, Gaijin’s long-held nemesis and priority #0.
From a gameplay perspective and historical perspective (let us not forget that while truly tragic Korea was a part of JP during the interwar and WW2 period, which was the chief logic for SA and IN being subtrees in the UK!), NK being the CN subtree and SK being the JP subtree are too obvious. But for whatever reason I guess those communities are beyond having their toes stepped on?
It’s just a giant, easily predicted beforehand, mess and Gaijin can’t put the genie back in the bottle.
God forbid Indonesia opts for J10C.
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As far as I know, the Koreans don’t want that at all, which is fair considering history.
And have a nearly all-encompassing tree with vehicles from all over the world? That would render most nations near obsolete since you have an near all in one tree. Why bother grinding anyone else? Gaijin would want you to grind multiple trees potentially buying multiple premiums for each one. They want your money, and they most likely won’t do this.
Yeah no SK to Japan. I disagree with that reasoning for sub-trees and I can’t even say for sure why they are added with the UK because there’s no clear metric as to why countries are put where they are. I supported an Independent India tech tree because that’s what the Indians want, and the UK has many other Commonwealth nations to draw from too.
Honestly, I don’t think Gaijin foresaw the Chinese community backlash against VT4. I’m pretty sure the international community sees it as Thai-owned and operated. (Along with VN1C) Hence why people don’t understand why this is a problem in the first place.
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- I’m not trying to (re)start this argument, just try to explain my opinion since I feel like it’s misunderstood.
As a German I don’t see it as an issue to have Leopard tanks placed outside of the German tree. This might be a cultural difference, but seeing German success like this from a purely nationalistic standpoint is something I’d feel proud of.
Sadly there’s no example for a subtree giving a Leopard to an enemy I can use, so I’ll have to be creative. Assuming there was suddenly support from Umranian players to be a Russian subtree, I would support the German Leopard ending up in the Russian tree despite the history between our nations and my family, since it would be a Ukranian tank.
I only opoose this addition now because the approval of Ukranian players isn’t there.
This is generally the way I think about any subtree in game. I believe the most important aspect is the operating nation itself.
This line of thinking is consistent with my opinion on the Thai VT-4 and Singapore as a nation. I understand if you still don’t agree, but I wanted to make clear that I don’t want to advocate for double standards here.
That being said, I found a point I agree with too:
…or rather an issue I do have a solution for. In fact a full, written out concept to resolve this issue.
Essentially this takes the concept of subtrees and turns them into nations presented as equals that support eachother.
This is how I think subtrees should’ve been done from the start, and makes sure that the VT-4 for example is clearly under the Thai flag.
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Stop talking about Singapore and vt4.He is deliberately changing the subject … The question we have now is when to repair the China vehicle. We will never forget this matter, and the China community will not stop until it is formally resolved.
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Half of this topic is abt Thai vt4
Vt4 is not really important.
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So should be added to japan.
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