However, the Challenger 2 (CR2) has another issue—its penetration capability. The penetration of its L27A1 ammunition is somewhat lower than that of the DTC series rounds used by ZTZ-series tanks.
primary issue is between China, Japan, AND THAILAND. No matter what main tech tree, flag, identity you want to argue, the primary conversation INCLUDES Thailand as this is a clear sabotage to the Thai-sub tech tree
Yes yes, you are correct. But what about the Leclerc which also has lower penetration capability? I thought this was a great vehicle?
I think the Italian main battle tank I see the most is the Hungarian Leopard 2A7. In fact, the weak protection of the Ariete is also due to incorrect model making.
Does the 2A7 make Italy stronger than China in-game? I must know
Even though this is an export vehicle, do you really think Chinese players would accept their own domestically manufactured equipment being placed under the tech tree of a hostile nation that committed atrocities on their soil and has since refused to reflect or show remorse?
And you country decided to export those vehicle to Thailand also the fact. Just like the example you mention the L2, Germany government decided to export + aid L2 to other countries that mean they already prepared to faced their own-manufacture tank that in enemy hand on the battlefield at the future. Same with the VT-4, but just the first confrontation is in this game. At the end it is THAI’s VT-4 if Thailand is only secondary then I don’t think China shouldn’t matters anywhere in this issue.
As far as I know, the French even submitted the tank’s manual to prove that the Leclerc has serious protection deficiencies in the game. However, so far, apart from securing a faster reload speed, they have gained nothing in other aspects.
Don’t argue with them, agree with them and let their own logic be their demise. Its funnier that way
But your friend said they were great tanks, better than ztz99
Leclerc’s penetration capability, while only slightly lower than that of the ammunition used by the Chinese ZTZ series, is compensated for by its five-second reload rate, which mitigates the drawback of its shell’s lower penetration to some extent. As long as the first shot doesn’t disable its autoloader, it retains the opportunity to retaliate.
I’m gonna be honest, I don’t care.
For years the standard for this game has been that each nation gets claim to all of their vehicles – including export vehicles.
If Chinese players suddenly want to take issue with that, they’re more than free to do that. But feel free to talk to US, Russia, Germany, Sweden, etc. players who constantly have their vehicles exported to nations they are not friendly with nowadays.
you make no sense
Since you claim not to care about these matters, then the completeness of the Thai subtree truly has nothing to do with you. Otherwise, your statements would be entirely self-contradictory.
I do care about Thailand getting vehicles they rightfully bought.
I don’t care that Chinese players would get upset about this.
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type it out at least, be a man
What you’re saying makes no sense at all? I’d like to hear your reasons.
no we need to argue with these guys, they think their voice is authoritative over the other members of the community, and that they are the exception compare to the other community members. This is disgrace to the Thai players, this is a disgrace to those who want to play Thai-line, and the constant goalposting of HUR DUR WHAT ABOUT UKRAINIAN OPLOT IN SOVIET TECH TREE ??? There is no Ukrainian subtechtree, quit goalposting.
What is FACT is that there is an ANNOUNCED and ESTABLISHED Thai sub tech tree, that is BEING developed (more vehicles being added), is being SABOTAGED because one community want to be the exception of the rule. Yes lets set a precedence for other communities in this game to sabotage each other because of this issue.
I still dont know whats a bigger disgrace, the fact gaijin WONT make a proper statement to finally bury the hatchet of this issue so we can move on, or the fact that people think it is okay to sabotage another community tech tree
I’ve given my reasons, you just cant understand them. please get better at the game
these ones have to be PRC bots or alviswisla’s alt account