Rather than some of you clamoring for Japan to annex Thailand, I believe we are more respectful of the wishes of Thai players. In fact, we are defending the democratic rights of all players. Thailand and Japan are entirely distinct nations, with completely different cultures. Yet some attempt to forcibly justify why Thailand is included as a subtree under Japan based on a Thai-Japanese alliance that has been denied by the Thai government. To safeguard the rights of ordinary players, we strongly demand that Thailand be placed alongside Japan as a separate nation. I believe this is the least respect we should show to the Thai people.
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Like I said maybe create a “minor nations” tree with multiple minor nations that are represented Even if they’re not politically related like Poland and the koreas
You’ve hit the nail on the head—it indeed comes down to the reload time. While tanks from other nations have achieved reload times of around five seconds, Chinese and Russian tanks generally lag behind in this aspect. However, Russian tanks like the T-80 and T-90 possess significantly superior protective armor compared to their Chinese counterparts, which helps mitigate their slower reload rates in combat. As for the French Leclerc, although its shell penetration may be lower than that of Chinese tanks, its five-second reload cycle allows it to compensate by delivering rapid follow-up shots. Chinese tanks, lacking both exceptional armor protection and a very fast reload, face a tougher challenge: if an initial shot fails to penetrate the target, the crew may have limited chances to correct their aim before facing retaliation.
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Ztz99a definitely needs fixed, late model m1a2Abrams are also wrong
tbf this applies to even fast autoloaders like the type 10
4-5 seconds is enough to aim and fire back
I apologize, but I haven’t reached the top tier of the Italian tech tree, so I’m not very familiar with Italy’s top-tier vehicles.
I honestly cant even argue with your perfect logic, I retract all previous statements.
The C1 Ariete and Leclerc and Challenger are the best vehicles in the game, I will never again complain
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It is, actually. Like every other export vehicle in the game, it should go to the nation that bought it. In this case, Thailand, which is in the Japanese tech tree.
China has access to their own export vehicles (eg. F-16A MLU, Mirage 2000, J-11, etc. just to name a few), every other nation in the game should have that exact same right.
Absolutely correct
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The ariete is kind of abysmal from what I can tell
Yes, but Chinese tanks cannot achieve this.
If we think about this in Chinese terms, it has worse armor, mobility, reload (5s is only at maxed crew with a loader), and electronics than the VT5.
All this at a higher BR, with the only benefit being the round
what i mean is that no matter what, the initial shot failing to penetrate can easily lead to being killed regardless of the tank
You know Germany 105mm DM23 is Israel M111 right?
So what? The only party that matter in this cases is Thailand, is their vehicle and not China or Japan
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I acknowledge the first two points, but not the one about the Challenger. As everyone knows, both the Challenger and ZTZ series are ranked at the bottom in the game—it’s essentially a competition for who is the absolute last and second last.
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But CR2 has a 5 second reload on ace crew??? Doesnt that make it the best?
I have nothing more to discuss with you. After all, the primary issue here is between China and Japan; the Thai-Japan alliance matter is secondary. No matter how much you argue, you cannot change the fundamental fact that Thai vehicles in the game fight under Japan’s identity.
In fact, the bulky hulls and haphazardly placed ammunition make these tanks highly vulnerable in intense urban combat.
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Oh I see, but what about the great and glorious ariete C1 which also has badly placed ammunition.
Also if we are talking about ammunition, the ZTZ99 comparatively has better placement
Ditto… It’s almost like that’s how export vehicles work in this game.
The exported tank goes to the nation that it was exported to…
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