Information Regarding the Thai Subtree and Chinese Vehicles

if you were treated like the British and french trees you would sure as hell know it

from your question earlier you dont understand english.

people like you are why so much of the playerbase doesnt like chinese players, bad faith arrogance

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The Chinese text of the administrator’s reply in the screenshot is:
“我们没有给日本科技树添加中国载具的计划和想法。”
You can try to translate it. This text does not include a definition of whether this thing is possible in the future. In Chinese semantics, it is a complete denial. If the development team did not have plans to add it at the time, the Chinese text should be:
“我们暂时没有给日本科技树添加中国载具的计划和想法。”

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They did not say NOW(现在) or CURRENTLY (目前), then we treat it as a permanent promise

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A permanent promise would be “不会有” (can’t/won’t), not “没有” (don’t).

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I can’t convince everyone end of the day, so if he has his own opinions its fine and I do respect it since it was a genuinely well done write up. However personally I’d still rather put Israel way on top of the priority list since they do need a subtree desperately and while SG offers mostly copy paste it still expands their line up and in a vacuum, it does also give Israel more choices to play with.

Ofc we also have to prioritise what the Chinese players think and if they do not want SG to CN then it aligns with what I’ve been saying the whole time.

Cc @Reimeru

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This is correct.

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I think i see the issue. translations into simplified chinese neglect to include nuance and the chinese players already having their lingerie in a twist failed to understand how gaijins corporate speak works.

Both sentences mean the exact same thing in English. an English speaker wouldnt know that this isnt the case for simplified chinese either.

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Well, yes and no. Yes because the assumption has always been that it is never a “no” until they confirmed and promised it, but no because in English terms, they also did not use the word “currently” which can affect the outcome of the wording too, so it could seem like a bit of a stab in the back when they’ve said something almost definitive.

As a Chinese speaker too, I have to say they didn’t promise that. No plan doesn’t mean no forever, that is true in both languages.

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when youve seen how gaijins PR speaks you can fill the gap very easily. Its intentionally not a direct yes or no confirmation for if they decide to persue such an action later.

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Classic corpo talk, also why nobody trusts them anymore.

Of course and we very much get it, we’re just numb to their BS at this point. But the Chinese language is quite strict when it comes to wording, so if you’re not precise with it, one thing can mean another thing.

they simply leave options open for later. The chinese being mad that they cant gatekeep their stuff from other nations when their tree is mostly other peoples stuff matters not to that

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After so much discussion, they won’t take advice, want to make money from players … and don’t take advice from players. I really don’t know what this company will look like in the future.

I know how chinese can be. Im trying and failing to learn traditional chinese.

if i pronounce the same word slightly wrong it means something so far from what i meant that it becomes gobbledygook

hahaha welcome to Chinese language, be it the main or the dialects. If you say one thing wrong it can go from “How are you?” to “Go F yourself.”

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Dont worry my mate from Hong Kong taught me a fair few insults already so hopefully will help me in not stumbling, the cantonese are quite artistic with how they make them.

The core is still the long term mistreatment of the TT, the spark was the inconsistency between the autoloader position in the Japanese VT4 and the domestic VT4 variants.

tbh, I’m tired of reminding people about how things started in the first place, the misrepresentation of the Chinese community by trolls and nationalists who doesn’t even know the issues themself is almost as worse as the empty answers from the mods

I would be on the side of the Chinese if it was not for entitled posts like this.

Plenty of other nations are worse off than China, and we ALL fight gaijin for corrections. But the entitlement of thinking China is the only country in the world makes me have no respect for you

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So it started with an inconsistency EVERYONE has to deal with in game

lol

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Another thing drives us mad is when we post any issues to BUFF Chinese vehicles on the issue reporting website, TONS of the post got denied EVEN HAVE A RELIABLE INFO (Not a Bug/Not Enough Info), or they ACCEPTED the post and take a EXTREMELY LONG TIME to implement it or HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED AT ALL! Some people post those issues to NERF Chinese vehicles will be implemented EVEN WITHIN 30 MINUTES. Moreover, they used the informations that we provided, but implement the WEAKEST PART like AFT-09, the MINIMUM turret turning rate is 15 degrees/sec, then they set this as the MAXIMUM turning rate, and for PGZ-09, should have at least -5 degrees of depression angle, they use the -2 degrees, which is the minimum angle when moving. Think about that, if gaijin do this to the nation that you played, will you be happy with this?

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