Information Regarding the Thai Subtree and Chinese Vehicles

probably the best reply in the thread btw

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Unironically i think a M551A2 OPFOR could be good as a premium similar to M1 KVT. I think most were converted from M551A1 TTS, so would be much better than the Vietnam era sheridan we see now

China is not being added to Japan, stop lying.
No one, not a single person is saying add China to Japan, no one.

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Gun’s a dummy though, so unless they fudge it it’s a no go :/

Well uhhhh, put it ingame as a M551A1 TTS with a vis-mod. I mean technically the M1 KVT would only ever fire blanks, so.

Im just trying to waffle my way to getting this vehicle, looks funny ash

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Oh for sure.

(My personal want for that sort of thing is the ASCOD II VAC PM)

Such a smol turret

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I love how off topic drowns an actually good reply in this thread 😭😭 just kill it atp man

2000 replies how many of them useful

No need to justify this, it doesn’t come off as hate against Japan at all, it is true that individually there is little to no military relation between Japan and Singapore. Really the only nations that do have such relations are Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines, and I doubt more than that will ever be needed (right now I think Thailand and Indonesia are perfect).

Anyways I’m happy to see some more Singaporean opinions on the topic, I hope Gaijin takes these as the main priority when making the decision.

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Exactly, every TT has their issues, but the Chinese can’t speak for everyone. In order to fix everything we need everyone to speak for all issues, not just complain about their own issues.

We, the playerbase, is all the snail has, without us the snail is nothing.

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Even a year? I have bugs that are 7-8 years old. All of them were accepted, none of them actioned.

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@AquaUselessGod wonder what you think about his post

They do this for everyone though, it’s not just a Chinese issue. Really the system should be improved.

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Why promise if you cannot implement?
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Many discussions, especially on military gaming forums, cannot take place in a respectful and constructive manner unless there is a basic level of respect for Chinese players and the sensitivities they hold. On such platforms, two topics frequently arise:

The Taiwan Question

It is important to note that many countries, including the United States and Japan, when establishing diplomatic relations with the People’s Republic of China, have all adhered to the ​​One-China Principle​​. This principle is clearly reflected in key international documents, such as:

​​United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758​​

​​The Sino-American Joint Communiqué (1979)​​

​​The Sino-Japanese Joint Statement (1972)​​

Despite this clear international consensus, there are still individuals or groups who attempt to portray Taiwan as an "independent country."​​Such views not only go against the universally recognized stance of the international community, but also ignore the historical and legal fact that Taiwan is an inalienable part of China.​​
台湾问题与新时代中国统一事业_白皮书_中国政府网

China-Japan Relations​​

China and Japan are close neighbors separated only by a narrow strip of water, and the relationship between the two nations has a long and complex history. Since the normalization of diplomatic ties, ​​China-Japan relations have generally continued to develop​​, with increasing friendly exchanges and pragmatic cooperation across various fields. These efforts have brought tangible benefits to the peoples of both countries and have contributed to regional and global peace, stability, and prosperity.However, ​​the relationship has also experienced significant ups and downs, and certain issues and challenges remain unresolved.​​

⚠️ Historical Issues: Problems in Historical Perception

One of the most sensitive and painful issues is Japan’s attitude toward its wartime aggression.

The Japanese government, particularly right-wing political and social forces, have shown signs of ​​historical revisionism​​ — downplaying or even denying atrocities such as the ​​Nanjing Massacre​​, ​​whitewashing the nature of the war of aggression​​, and attempting to mislead future generations through ​​textbook distortions​​ and ​​visits to the Yasukuni Shrine​​, where Class-A war criminals are honored.

These actions have ​​deeply hurt the feelings of the Chinese people​​ and have ​​undermined the political foundation of bilateral relations​​.

​​It was primarily due to the denial and distortion of wartime history by Japanese right-wing elements — their attempts to gloss over or beautify the atrocities of war — that led to justified outrage and protests from people with a sense of justice. Saying things like "It’s been 80 years, why can’t you just get over it?"is not acceptable. ​​Time is not an excuse for forgetting.​​​​To this day, Japan has not offered a sincere apology to the Chinese people, nor has it provided proper compensation to the victims.​​Who will bring justice to the innocent lives lost in massacres? Who will console the spirits of the soldiers who fought and died resisting aggression?​​We remember history not to dwell in hatred, but to ensure a better future — one where such tragedies are never repeated.​
重要新闻_中华人民共和国外交部
新华时评丨以大格局、大方向、大智慧推动中日关系行稳致远-新华网

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That was not a promise. Biggest misconception by your community.

If I say “I have no plans to eat chicken nuggets soon/for now”, it doesn’t mean I will never eat chicken nuggets for the rest of my entire life.

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I think this topic needs more posts like yours.

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Political and National ideals should be left at the door before talking about a damn video game.
We are on neutral ground and if not then there is no point to discussing.

Do jewish players object to ww2 german vehicles? No

Do I object to french vehicles? No

Do i object to vehicles my country built and sold to other countries appearing in the game if it meant going into a tree my nation has historical butthurt with? also NO

Can players play victim when they are receiving back what an overwhelming amount if their nations community have dished out themselves? Couldn’t be much further than no

The independent nation of Taiwan’s geopolitical situation matters not to the digital space of the War Thunder forums or the gameplay of the video game War Thunder, nor does Japan’s conquest of Asia in the 1900s.

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The moderator said [We don’t have any plans to adding CN vehicles to JP tech tree], if this is not a promise then what can be a promise?

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a promise would be a direct statement that says “No chinese vehicles will appear in the Japanese tree”

They simply said they have no plans as of yet.

they may do in the future, they may not.

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If you cannot understand English, nor the translated work you provided, you don’t need to talk.

Your gross interpretation of the English language is showing bad faith discussion.

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