the israeli military being engaged in combat operations have no relation with israel reciving a nation like singapore as a subtree, its allies would remain the same.
Israel have only one Merkava variant remaining to be added at the maximum BR right now. “the demands of warfare sometimes drives the development of more effective battlefield modifications” yes of course but yet again this is not a valid reason to be against the addition of singapore to israel, finland was added and their leopards didnt bring anything new to sweden but they were added anyways in this case israel would be really benefited of having those leopards in the tree for 2 reasons *1 the leopards offers a strong armor which merkavas lacks, *2 leopards would complement well with merkavas and you know why?, its because the merkavas have the mobility that the leopards dont, having such lineup with good mobility + good round + faster reload but less armor paired with strong armor, amazing round, decent reload but less mobility is a good combination leopards would make up for the shortcomings of merkavas and vice versa. now you understand why singapore doesnt make sense to be added to other nation besides israel?
Military cooperation alone does not substantiate any argument. China has engaged in military collaborations with the United States, France, the United Kingdom, Israel, and others. Such cooperation cannot justify integrating one nation’s TT as a sub-TT of another’s. Moreover, the military cooperation you mentioned is unrelated to ANY vehicle.
Regarding this point, I feel the blame still lies with Gaijin. The Merkava’s unique survivability design hasn’t been properly represented in the game. Similar issues exist with the Leclerc, Challenger, and ZTZ99A.
However, I still insist that giving Leopard 2 to more TTs would only make them homogeneous, which would undoubtedly significantly shorten the game’s lifespan.
Can you explain how military, diplomatic cooperation and helping another country to declare itself independent of being a colony of another country is not a substantial argument to remark how much related the involved nations are between each other. can you explain to all of us please?
How this is unrelated to any singaporean vehicle if their F-15s and F-16s use israeli technology, components and missiles? you didnt know that the singaporean F-16D Block 52+ its literally the SUFA? minus the AESA radar that was installed replacing the mechanical 68v9, the F-15SG is almost the RA´AM except that the RA´AM does not have the MAW system, what MAW system do you think that the singaporean F-15SGs use?? OH yea the israeli PAWS MAW System you can find it in the SUFA we have in game.
this isn´t familiar to you? looks like it has the extra 4 30 round countermeasure dispensers space on the back like the RA´AM BTW is also part of the israeli AN/ALQ-250 EPAWS countermeasures system.
Singapore operates the F-16D Block 52 and F-16D+, both variants integrates Israeli electronic warfare systems and infrared missile warning receivers. PAWS MAW System, what missiles do you think that the singaporean air force use besides the american amraams? the israel Python-4, 5 and those F-16s can also use the whole Derby family, what helmet mounted sight system do you think that the singaporean air force use? oh yes the Elbit DASH III (produced in israel), the two singaporean F-16D variants use CFTs, from which nation do you think those CFTs came? oh yes israel, Singaporean F-16D+ shares a lot of upgrade elements with the Israeli F-16I Sufa, indicating a really close cooperation between both nations, same case with the F-15SG.
you can clearly see the PAWS MAW sensors in the spine and down in the air intake, the bulge under fuselage in the rear section and you can also see the bulge up in the spine which contains another sensor, this is literally the same system you can find in the sufa, all the electronics and warfare system are israeli.
PAWS MAW sensors are located in the rear section were the elevators are, remember when i said it almost the Ra´am well you can clearly see the same countermeasure system that the Ra´am have minus the PAWS in this picture.
the Hunter AFV uses israeli Samson Remote Controlled Weapon Station (RCWS) well known as Katlanit turret, the Spike launchers are in the back and it uses the Spike-LR2.
this are just some examples of how committed Israel has been to Singapore for decades since singapore was declared independent with the help of israel, if this doesn´t show any signs of a really strong relation of decades between both nations i dont know what it is anymore. this is more than just military cooperation mate the whole country, the people are free and independent because someone helped for this to be acomplished i appreciate a lot the singaporean people i went to singapore many times and all i can say is that they are really gratefull of standing where they are atleast thats what i perceived from my trips.
The cas problem would be fixed now that newer spaas are implemented this allows for the introduction of LD-10S , YJ-9 variants and , similar solution to the french hammer could also be implemented since the chinese also use lgbs with boosters , stormbreaker alternatives , mid tier cas could be fixed with pakistani mirage 5/3 rose 2s ,
https://polandgroundfinal.neocities.org/
yes, very “small tree” “like israel”. Poland has more of a place in warthunder than China, it has a pre-war industry and it continues today
Not to be that person but that possible tech tree only goes to 88 vehicles(not counting premiums) but since is only a suggestion the chinese suggestion one would get up to more than 100 vehicles with several being left out and not including sub trees, so that puts Poland around 60 vehicles for War Thunder most likely, also China keeps developing vehicles to this day too so I don’t the see the point of comparing the 2 nations in that aspect
Well I mean China doesn’t really see any pre-war uniqueness. Im not going to argue that China barely has any of the vehicles it should have in-game, but in-game it seems lackluster.
Also the tree that I made does not include any subtrees, and is an example of Poland on its own. If you put in a potential subtree like Czechoslovakia, then it would be in theory as powerful as the big 3.
no clue where you are getting this from or if you even read what I sent, but the tech tree I made has 134 vehicles (not including premium or event). This also isn’t all the possible amount Polish vehicles, so from that standpoint Poland has more than the Chinese suggestion.
And so does poland, which is currently arguably the leading military power in Europe apart from Russia. Poland also is expanding its military exponentially in the next 5 years
Yeah I have a list lying around there for that somewhere.
From my memory, it was was around 180 vehicles, I think I found more which I could add though
Understandable about the prewar uniqueness, I personally care more about the cold war but it is what it is
My bad I got that number from your link which I didn’t know there were folders that’s why I got that count of vehicles, an expanded Chinese tech tree would also include a lot more vehicles but seeing how is treated currently is meh to think about it
Not arguing about military power neither which one is stronger I just said both countries are still developing vehicles
all good bro, just didn’t know what side you were on. PRC side been ragebaiting by saying Poland should be USSR subtree, it could only be a small Israel like tree, etc.
