Information Regarding the Thai Subtree and Chinese Vehicles

Its what happened with the challenger 3TD it came with a brand new model that was more accurate then the challenger 2s and fixed some of the problems people asked for the old models to be updated and gaijin took that as remove the new damage model and replace it with the old one thats buggy

In some cases yeah, they’d need to make completely new models. In this case the issue is just moving up the autoloader module a bit because for the VT-4A1 it’s sitting inside the torsion bars of the suspension and lower than the frontal armor meant to protect it.

VT-4

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VT-4A1

If Japan can’t have a single Thai VT-4, then China should not be allowed to have a single NATO vehicle.

End of Story.

I don’t even have the words to describe how I, and thousands of others, feel about this. In the same post you’re addressing this whole issue in, you just confirmed a nation full of NATO weaponry as a sub-tree for China. What the hell.

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That’s not how it works. Chinese players don’t want their tanks in the Japanese tree, just like I doubt many people would be happy with a Russian T-84.

They are both China, so they belong in the Chinese tree.

Neither do Chinese players. No one is asking for that, they just want their domestic vehicles to be added and fixed.

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I am not comfortable with Singapore and NATO vehicles within the Chinese tree. As a Simulator Player, it’s not only frustrating from a gameplay perspective, but extremely lazy and anger-inducing. If Thailand can’t receive what it has historically because Chinese players find it politically incorrect, that same rule should apply in reverse. If Japan cannot receive a single VT-4, then China should not get to keep a single foreign adversarial vehicle.

Then don’t add Taiwan. It’s just copy and paste at this point.

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Sure. I’ve regularly seen them beg for US aircraft, and do you know what Singapore for China will have? Significantly more American Aircraft. Do you want a Strike Eagle in China? Is that healthy? Gaijin just confirmed it in front of us all.

Are you going to sit and look at confirmation for Singapore into China as totally acceptable, but agree that an Export vehicle given to Thailand, a friend of Japan and current sub-tree, is unacceptable? How exactly are we supposed to see this as anything other than a threat from Gaijin after bringing it up under this topic?

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After dropping Singapore as a Chinese sub-tree in this circumstance, it genuinely feels like a threat. I’m not surprised they shut down a counter-post.

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honestly its insane bro, this topic/POLL DIDNT BREAK ANY RULES!!! AND IT WAS CLOSED FOR NOTHING THE HELL IS HAPPENING THIS IS HOW THEY ARE GONNA TO HANDLE THINGS FROM NOW? JESUS

I think there still is a difference here

T-84 for Russia is problematic not because it’s made by Ukraine, but because it’s operated by them. If there was an operator nation with better relations to Russia that was in the Russian tree this also wouldn’t be seen as an issue.
The problem isn’t T-84 going to Russia, but Ukraine as a nation going to Russia.

In the VT-4s case this can also be exactly replicated. A Chinese VT-4 shouldn’t go to Japan because of the hostilities between the nations, but this is because of the nationality, not the vehicle itself.

Agreed, that’s like saying the German tree should be split in four because the German Empire, Nazi Germany, West Germany and East Germany are different nations. They are still all Germany.

To be fair the M1A2T is a domestic addition through ROC, and it’s even a unique variant of the tank. I think it’d be nice to see at some point.

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Not sure how old the message at the top of that thread is, but there is a message now from the mods at top, fwiw.

Look at the blue information bar above the posts title for information on why it was closed.

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If you have questions about moderation on the forum please send a private message to one of the Forum Moderators, there is no need to post about it in public. You can find all the teams and the areas they handle listed here: (Who is who and Reporting Procedure). If you don’t get an answer within a few days you can add more moderators from the list to the original message instead of sending a new message (that way you preserve the date of the message and it doesn’t look like a new request), adding one of the moderators to the message every 2-3 days or so until you get an answer.

Please do not to add the seniors until you have tried all other regular moderators, the Seniors likely won’t answer unless they are added and pinged by the regular moderators but if you’ve added all the regular moderators with no answer then you can add the seniors.

As if that clears up the justification.

Dont open such vote in discussion section as due to overwhelming consensus on Singapore subtree, it would cause further arguments”.

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The only logical conclusion Gaijin should get from the sheer opposition and ratio’d post is that we do not like Singapore being in China.

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It calls the results “unilateral”, which is not the case as the vote is internationally accessible and quite varied in their answers, so it’s unclear what they meant by that.

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It’s also not a duplicate topic, as the only way to discuss the possible addition of Singapore to China currently is in a general topic that also includes other issues and topics that distract from this point.

So would it be possible to get more of an elaboration on why exactly it was closed so the specific problems can be avoided when making such a topic?

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Please see previous answer:

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No one is happy with this response. You’re only creating more frustration, and it will inevitably explode.

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Alright, I sent a DM with the question o7

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So when will gajin give players a better reply, we can’t just debate between ourself and they doing nothing

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