Indonesian Sub-tree: Bhinneka Tunggal Ika!

Technically could still be added as a vehicle. There are currently AAs (i.e. Bosvark) which are quite literally towed AA platforms sitting on a flat bed, so I don’t see why this wouldn’t work.

That being said, you would have an overweight obscure soviet amphib transport with practically no armor, dubious traverse/gun depression, and ammo storage / crew placement entirely dictated by Gaijin.

But hey, the GIAT LG-1 is pretty cool, so if anyone wants to…

3 Likes

I’ve also compiled most of the possible vehicles here, I might miss some of the recent suggestion on the replies though, but hopefully this’ll help a bit

Image

8 Likes

Dude I might just use this and write the historical descriptions for the suggestion, if that’s cool with you. I like the organization of it.

3 Likes

yeah im fine with it, no worries

also if you need some help/infos on certain vehicles i can try to help to the best of my abilities o7

2 Likes

Most likely I will lol. I’ll pm you when I hit a roadblock. After I do the update, feel free to pm me about additional info that I can add to the tree.

Thanks m8.

Also, congrats on your Air Sub-tree being passed to devs. I hope our Sub-tree as a whole gets added 🤙 in the update, I’ll add a link to it.

2 Likes

There is a difference in how the weaponry is handled.
Unlike with the pictured vehicle, the Bosvark actually fires it’s armament while mounted. This would not.

yess thank you, hopefully the ground forces will be next!

1 Like

On the lower rank SPAAs, I think you can fill them with the Dutch Indies Army vehicles. According to some basic reading, they’re technically the direct predecessor of the Indonesian Army and were absorbed post-WWII.

In that case, you have this Braat Overvalwagen AA variant with 1 x 12.7 mm Browning water-cooled HMG & 4 x 7.7 mm Vickers water-cooled MGs. They were produced in Machinefabriek Braat NV, Surabaya, Indonesia. Probably suitable for a 1.3-1.7 BR SPAA.
image

In addition, there’s also another Dutch Indies Army SPAA with the same 12.7 mm HMG, but this time on an open-cab truck. Potential for a 1.0 BR SPAA.
image

7 Likes

interesting, i know of the open cab chevy but I didnt know about that first one

Theres also this old range rover with 2x 50cal i previously mentioned that i forgot to put in the tree, but that thing is relatively recent so I think the other two options is better for the lower tiers

Though I don’t think its likely to have gone anywhere, I recently stumbled onto a unique option to perhaps provide a better ~10.0 ish BR SAM for the tree! ( other than the VAMTAC RR with Martlet/Starstreak )

It seems that in 2016 SAAB tested mounting RBS 70NG (BOLIDE but improved) to the roof of the Komodo 4x4.

image

Could be an interesting option with slightly longer range than the starstreak and the multi-purpose warhead.

4 Likes

With Indo Defence 2024 just a couple of months away, there’s a high likelihood that more tanks will be unveiled there, such as this one

P8 Tank made by PT. SSE

30mm Remote Controlled Gun in an unmanned turret, supposedly can also be fitted with a MLRS SAM system
Stanag level 2
Hybrid engine
amphibious
speed of 105km/h
3 crew on hull
7.5 tons

day sight, thermals, LRF

yesterday/today There were some leaked images circulating of the hull being pretty much done, but i cant share those images for obvious reasons. If you want to see it you can search on reddit if the post is still up

Its likely that the actual tank will be unveiled in Indo Defence 2024 so we’ll just have to wait and see

further reading: P8 Tank

8 Likes

Em… There are similar vehicles in the game. Why not?

Spoiler

upload_2024_08_12_22_17_19_323

2 Likes

But the BTR-ZD is a specific variant and was meant for use on the vehicle itself though,

for the K-61 I dont recall there was any mention that the cannon can be used whilst on the vehicle as its primarily serve as its transport but I could be wrong

I think for rank I it’s should exist several Japanese vehicles like the Ha-Go, Te-ke, and Chi-Ha Kai, plus maybe even tankettes as per KNIL forces stationed before the Japanese Occupation like the Mormon Herrington MTLS the one with a 37mm of it. In Rank II we could add several armoured car like the Humber and Marmon Herrington.

Its gonna be long but bear with me

I dont know if the Ha-Go was ever used but from the few references that exist, the Te-Ke’s 37mm was switched with the 7.7mm when it was used by the Indonesian army in one example captured by the dutch in 1947. Of course other regions could’ve captured and operated the 37mm but I dont think there was any mention of them (i could be wrong)
video here

Image

image

for the Chi-ha it seems to be the 57mm variant not the Kai that was captured in Surabaya in 1945 because it has the smaller turret. Most likely the reason why the gun doesnt look right is because i presume it mustve been removed at some point and was replaced with a dummy barrel in its place.
story

image

For the MTLS with the 2x 37mm, I dont recall it was ever used in Indonesia since they’re mostly sent to Suriname, only a handful CTMS with the singular 37mm was sent to Indonesia and an even smaller number were captured by the Japanese, which then couldve been transfered to the Indonesians, but again not a whole lot of references in Indonesian use.
further reading

explanation

additionally Indonesia uses the Mk3 variant of the Marmon–Herrington armoured car with only the machine guns turret. The Indonesians captured them from the Japanese who captured it from the Dutch. Was mentioned on the “Sejarah Kavaleri Korps Marinir” book by the Lieutenant colonel of the marines

now for the Humber, its actually a somewhat unique variant called the Humfox, the same that the Dutch operated. Where its the Canadian Fox armored car hull mounted with the Humber MK4 37mm.
Humfox Mk1 Forum suggestion

they’re classified as “stuart” tanks by the Indonesians because it uses the same cannon. This one singular tank is on display at the pusdikpal (Equipment Education Centre) in Bandung.
Source

the only image that i can find

Again, i could be wrong for some of these

2 Likes

Don’t forget that Indonesia has the BTR-4M so, another way to introduce another Ukrainian vehicle

Spoiler

I’m in love with this vehicle

Spoiler

jakarta-indonesia-sep-26-2023-600nw-2376619877

5 Likes

The suggestion now has a dedicated sub-tree image, courtesy of @NFrost51. The descriptions and additions of vehicles will be updated soon. Below in the spoiler is a copy of the tree layout.

Spoiler

Edit: For some reason the image doesn’t like “Spoilers”. Check out the suggestion to see the full-size. Bonus vehicle images below:


The Harimau tank, armed with an advanced Cockerill 3105 turret.


The Badak FSV with a unique 90mm gun.


The Indonesian-specific BTR-4M, built and exported by Ukraine.


The Cobra 8x8 IFV, a Pandur II that’s heavily modified to meet the needs of the Indonesian Army.


The main battle tank of the Indonesian Army, the Leopard 2RI

Additional Note:

  • The Indonesian military loves there modern 90mm guns, some of which can fire APFSDS-T.
    • Badak FSV
    • FV101 Scorpion 90
    • Anoa 6x6 FSV
    • V-150 FSV
    • Tarantula FSV
    • PT-76(M)
5 Likes

excellent work like always Yontzee, i’m a fan of your suggestions all of them very interesting indeed

1 Like

Thanks man! I really appreciate it. I’m trying to go back through my old suggestions and clean them up. If you see any that are incorrect or missing information, feel free to drop a comment on it. Also stay tuned for my new ones that are pending:

  • Current overall suggestions pending:
    • (RU) T-72B3 obr. 2016 (Arena-M), or aka T-72B3A
    • (RU) BMP-3 ‘Manul’
    • (RU) BTR-22
    • (RU) BMP-3 4S24 NKDZ
    • (UA) Object 478BEM1
    • (UA) T-64BV (Zaslin)
    • (RS) HARPAS SPAAG
  • Current projects being worked on/updated:
    • Ukraine Ground Forces Tree
    • Indonesian Ground Forces Sub-tree
  • Perspective projects:
    • (UA) Mi-24PU1
    • (UA) Mi-24PU2
    • (UA) Mi-8MSB-V
    • (UA) Strela-10 “Beam” (RK-10 Missiles)
    • (UA) Strela-10M (Valli)
    • (US) M2A4E1 Bradley
3 Likes

The Indonesian BTR-4M looks a lot like the BTR-4MV1. Do you know about the Indonesian variant’s protection?
image

1 Like