Indonesian Sub-tree: Bhinneka Tunggal Ika!

another question and suggestion.

  1. why PT - 76 (m) is on rank V ? it’s doesn’t make senses for me, imo that thing will be on rank IV with max BR 6.7.

  2. do we really need tarantula 6x6 in tree cause we already have badak that literally pretty close spec ?

the tech tree image there is made to show the list of vehicle that the army has, ive put those vehicles and the brief explanation so that yontzee can then pick and choose which one he wanted to suggest, i dont think all of them should be suggested, im just saying that “hey we have this! and this!” since some people outside may not know a lot about them, like the humfox for instance

can anyone ID this turret? I know its a cadillac cage but I dont know what gun is mounted there

probably .50 cal + .30 cal since theres no record if IDN using the 20 mm one.

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It’s the .50cal variant with M60 coaxial. The M2HB on that photo has a flash hider.
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here’s some more images of the 75mm AMX-13 in East Timor

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AMX-13s of the Yonkav 8/Kostrad, before deployment to East Timor

Deployed around June 1976


More detailed look at “Limpung Alugoro” with the “sukarelawan (volunteers)” decal on the turret face

same text as this badge

Source:
https://twitter.com/frownland_arch

as well as from the upcoming book made by the same person

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ABSOLUTELY HUGE FIND! Here are some very rare closer look of the M4A3s


more contrasted image


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Its definitely an E8, I think these images also shows its the 105mm version, but im not quite sure, can anyone confirm? Also is that Vickers as the roof mounted MG there?

Source (The page has tons of other interesting historical photographs as well):

From the book “Bakti Anda di Angkatan Laut by TNIAL”
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for me it is the 105 because the gun its too big for 75, “bolty” bit beside gun mantlet, and the base end of barrel it looks like just big circular. for the MG i dont think thats vickers MG because the front end of barrel seems doesn’t have muzzelbrake / flat, i would say that MG is watercooled .50 cal / M2 MG.

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I agree, and I think based on these images the late 75mm should be switched to the 105mm.

Switching the m4 would also help the tree since it would then be a rank 2 vehicle and not a rank 3, which has enough vehicles I think, and spreading the vehicles more evenly across the lower tiers

I also thought that it was an M1917 Browning, because the Marines service rifle back then was the .30-06 SAFN-49 and thus they have a common ammunition. Then I saw this photo of Indonesian Marines LVTs, which clearly showed them also using the Vickers MG

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Indonesian 2a4+ with a off-the-shelf IR/thermal camera from the recent Indo-Australian Keris Woomera 24 exercise, dunno how i feel about this “modification”

Source : x.com

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hey remember this? ^

Looks like its finished!

looks like the turret is the Dynateq 30mm Super Rogue RCWS with a slightly different configuration w/ smoke shells
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nice, but is theres any specific gun they use ?, because its seems dynateq have 2 diff option for the gun, and from web description also probably their catalogue ? they offer 30mm Defa and 30mm Camgun.

source :

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we dont know, considering the tank was revealed only just a few days ago and tbf the company themselves haven’t explicitly revealed this yet, it was shown by the government’s House of Representatives, so not a whole lot of information other than the basic ones we’ve already known

hell the turret could also be either Reutech or Dynateq, since they’re very similar (might even be the same).

although, theres a 99% chance we’ll get a better look at the specifications come January during the IndoDefence2025, since anything major would most likely be there (such as this).

see here: instagram

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i think reutech and dynatech is the same company more likely the dynatech is company inside reutech group from catalogue description. but im not sure

footage of the inside and firing of Tarantula 6x6 , Indonesian version of the Korean Doosan DST Black Fox

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The Vehicle

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Source:
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heres another suggestion ( or not ) for low tier AA if you getting bored getting a truck with 50 cal how about a car with 50 cal

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also this will be off topic, because idk where i should put ( the aviation is closed, so i decided going to here ) and this could be unique vehicle. during seroja operation/ Indonesia invasion of timor, the airforce need another plane for ground attack / CAS role and the airforce decided to arm some of their available plane including grumman albatross, they equip albatross with 50 cal, bomb , and rocket. but there’s no more online detail about it ( i only know that its equip with 50 cal , and 4x 250 kg bomb), but there’s display plane at A.sulaksono museum that could be have more details about it

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the source for this is in the “Operasi Udara di Timor Timur”, so quite a rare book.

the one in abd. Saleh AFB has some MK82s displayed alongside it

However the museum in Yogyakarta also has a singular UF-1 Albatross, this one is a part of the 5th air squadron the singular air force squadron that operates it. The display plaque only mention torpedoes and rockets, and i dont see any gun mounting for the machine guns, maybe the holes on the wing near the engine could be the gun placement, but again not sure.

Display Plaque and translated text

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UF-1 Albatros (IR-0117)

Country of Origin : United States
Aircraft Type : Amphibious
Factory : Grumman Aircraft, USA
Engine : Piston 2 ea
Wingspan : 29,42m
Length : 19,12m
Height : 7,7m
Empty Weight : 10.839kg
Max Weight : 17.010kg
Max Speed : 379km/h
Armament : Torpedo & Rocket
Crew : 7 plane crews
Year in service : 1957 - 1977
- A part of 5th Sea Reconnaisance Squadron Indonesian Navy
- Stationed in Abdurahman Saleh, Malang


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But i think its not really needed since with its speed and size it would be a bomber trying to fulfill a striker role, and considering for the lower ranks we already have a good option for both of those types (T-6G/AT-16, Guntei, B-25J, Catalina)

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Fortunately, I do own the book, but there’s not much info on it, it was only mentioned in passing

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so what i found rn, theres half detail information photo in the recent google map review of that museum ( wich i cant show you in here, cause someone is blocking the information), another information that someone from fb says that airforce have / show a photo about the mg but they show it in their hangar? during 80s.

well despite others low rank plane, i think we could still reconsider it, cause not many albatross really equip with cas/ ground attack armament and b4 someone say " An0tHer C0py P4stE "

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