Independent South African Tech Tree & Jordanian Sub-Tree

This is the D-5T version, just FYI. So is the one linked in the source

edit: I lied

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Actually if we look at all of the T-34-85’s South Africa and South Rhodesia used, we may determine what variant or variants that they use since Cuba and multiple Warsaw Pact countries sent their T-34-85’s to the armies of Angola, Mozambique and Namibia end up inheriting at least 4 from SWAPO. Most if not all SWAPO operated T-34-85’s were ex DDR examples

F-16 block 70maybe !!
i also keep hearing F-16 and siren all of the time like gurl i want to sleep it’s so scary sound like SCP 😭 😭
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iv been living in jordan for almost 6 years my mum she is originally from jordan and my dad is from Swedish !
people in jordan are so kind and polite people 💗 they keep sending me flowers 😭i hope sub-tree gets added !!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.airteamimages.com%2Fgeneral-dynamics-f-16-falcon_247_jordan-air-force_456465&ved=0CBoQjhxqFwoTCNjyi7fXjpMDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAI&opi=89978449

online images i found :

another F-16 idk what block is that

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Would be awesome to F-16 block 70 added to that tech tree in lovee

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Good luck buddy

How many languages does bro know

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i speak English / Swedish / broken jordanain but getting better !
others i use this google translate to help me understand :D

i am not a dude.
that’s mean

But thanks for asking :D

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I would personally would prefer to see the Jordanian Hunters, or the Jordanian Vampires or even the Jordanian CC-101’s

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i never knew they had these planes would be a nice mix between UK / US planes maybe?
that would be awesome to see added !
in upcoming months when revisit the tank museum i will ask them these jets if they have book talks about them !
right now it’s scary to much sirens can’t even sleep almost peed my self when i heard the siren in the first time i thought they dropping a nuke 😭

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The CC-101’s are actually Spanish Built. Also some of Jordan’s F-16’s are either built and/or modified by Turkish Aeronautical Industries so it’s not just a exclusive US/UK mix

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Mb, and right on International Women’s Day, shame on me.

(Bro can be gender-neutral sometimes)

Not BTR-84 but BTR-94 with 23mm 2A7M, and capacity is only 200 rounds in 2 magazines (2x100)

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The way I snorted when I saw this is not for people with sensitive ears, but I desperately want a Jordanian Landcruiser with IGLA missiles now lol

You had me at Rhodesia,

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This music official by Jordan they show awesome tanks 😻😻

i love this country so much almost 7 years living in it’s very awesome country and god bless the king one of the most peaceful humans 💗

i learned dancing the jordanian dance from my mum because she is jordanian it’s called dabke and yes we girls dance debke to it’s so fun :
example video of the tradition dance but it jordan it have more moves 😸each Friday we dance with my sister and other friends
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jKDy1JuOtPk

Was wondering if Iraq can be added in the Jordanian line even if it’s just for filler vehicles due to having close ties with both South Africa but especially Jordan since the Iraqi and Jordanian monarchies are part of the same dynasty (Hashemites) and they maintained close relationship despite the Iraqi monarchy being overthrown.

Lebanon could be added too

Have you also considered the corresponding air tree it would need? The only unique South African fighter aircraft I could find is the Atlas Cheetah, which was based on the Mirage III. This would make South Africa’s air tree similar to Israel’s air tree, it would mostly be formed of planes from the UK, France and USA

The only unique South African fighter aircraft I could find is the Atlas Cheetah, which was based on the Mirage III

I’m going to spilt this question into two parts. Starting with the Cheetah and it’s lineage.

It’s not incorrect to say that it has a lineage with the Mirage III however the vehicle that the Cheetah most similarly resembles is the Kfir since they serve the same roles and are solutions to the same issues both countries had + the issues with Embargoes. Israel even proposed to sell a dedicated export version of the Kfir to South Africa (Kfir C.9). Israel has also previously sold off a handful of Neshers to South Africa prior. The deal never panned out however and South Africa end up developing their own aircraft in house based off the Mirage III, Nesher & Kfir as a base.

The second part; The Cheetah being the sole unique air vehicle for South Africa.

That is flat out false. For starters there’s a few other domestic aircraft that South Africa did develop more military aircraft such as the Mwari COIN aircraft and Atlas ACE Trainer as examples. Though for the later i do have reservations but mainly due to lack of data in regards to it. There is also the Carver project which was a proposed fighter and successor to the Cheetah which was developed around the same time when other nations were developing their own next generation domestic fighters such as Argentina’s FMA SAIA 90, Japan’s FS-X (if i got the project name right), Romania’s IAR-95, Switzerland’s ALR Piranha and Yugoslavia’s Novi Avion projects.

Outside of that South Africa had a lot of unique upgrades to their foreign aircraft such as their heavily modified Mirage F1’s which can use Domestic and Soviet munitions including R-73’s, the Impala (MB-326) and the Rhodesian Hunter which was modified not only by South Rhodesia but also South Africa and even Zimbabwe when they are grandfathered into the Zimbabwean airforce. There are more examples but i’ll be here all day. South Africa also operated a lot of vehicles that though are foreign we do not have in game so if they are added to South Africa they would be “technically” unique (e.g: Warwick Maritime Reece aircraft)

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I should clarify that the Cheetah was the only somewhat unique dedicated fighter that entered service in South Africa that I knew of, the aircraft you cited are either not dedicated fighters or never enter service. That said, I’m not an expert on South African aviation, and I do make mistakes.
I do still think that there aren’t enough unique domestically produced aircraft to justify a separate South Africa tree, however I do think it would be cool to see some South African aircraft represented in game, even if they were just skins on existing aircraft

T-34-85 Model 1969. These had smoke canisters, electric turret traverse, modified engines, night driving equipment and the ability to use HEAT ammunition (provided the operator purchased it). I’d put it at 6.0 or 6.3.

P.S Thanks for the video link.