Increasing the Maximum Battle Rating of Ground Vehicles and Helicopters

No one said that.
I’m saying it’s done as a balancing metric, the fact that the CR2 report for its STANAG level was completely binned, shows that.
If it had its correct protection levels it would stop substantially more types of ammunition giving NATO MBTs’ even more advantages.

I never said the CR2 was balanced, I said the ERA for NATO tanks is done this way to give some balance.

The basket, is attached to the ring, if you destroy a turret basket, which can and does impede the actual turret turning then yes it would stop the turret turning
What is hard to understand about that concept¿

With them being far more open about it than literally any other report?

All other ones are either binned, or completely ignored.

The breach is orange, not disabled.

You realise it can go red then black before it’s disabled right?

In most real scenarios in game I tend to find myself losing the turret ring and possibly the vertical aiming drive when someone has rushed me, then I can fire back and take them out.

You on the other hand are taking abrams into open fields and wondering why you’re getting hammered.

  • as is DM53 on the rhiemental 120s.
  • the Leopard 2a4 IRL can fire DM53, unless im wrong @dotSHINI knows way more than I on the capabilities of leopards, as far as I am aware 2A4 can fire DM53.

Source?

the M1A2 and the M1A1 HC should be at least 12.3 that is everyones point here.

So again, you are saying move the Sep V2 and V1 down to 12.0 the same as the M1A2 is.
when they are objectively better due to commander thermals as well as Gen 2 thermals.

which again means move them down lol.

the M1A2 should NOT be lower than the plethora of 12.7s we now have which it is either on par with or just flat out better than.

As are the turret baskets and additional Modules.
the turret baskets sit pretty damn low in the tanks bud dunno where you’re getting the idea they dont. as well as this they changed the models of them after release so there was less to hit through the center point.

what’s with the question marks?
the only one the su cant pen, which I stated above as I used the Marder 3 for it, is the CR2. which is still a rank 2 TD.





As shown in all screenshots.

Not if it’s going to destroy entire brackets.
right now the M1A1, IPM1 and such are absolutely dominating the 10.3 area.
As well as the 11,0 area is all but gone due to constant uptiers to 12.0 facing off against abrams in tanks like the ZTZ99 II.

This is the first “offensive” thing I’ve said.

It’s not offensive to tell you that you have been lying, making false statements, as well as catagorically denying facts such as the 3BM46 can’t pen the M1A2.
Yet you keep up the chirade as if all of us are wrong?

As well as misquoting me, which is disingenious as hell, and wonder why I’m saying you have issues with reading comprehension? .

The main reason I said that was due to you acting as if waht I said was the CR2 has the exact reload of the Abrams and isn’t a flaw. when what I really said was it only has a 5 second reload for the first 4 rounds. Past the ready rack it loses a lot of time.

I shant be replying more to yourself, as this has been nothing short of a waste of time as well, and I don’t fancy wasting more. Believe what you will.

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it can fire DM53 and DM63, only DM73 requires a better cannon.
That being said i do not know if historicaly time wise 2a4 shot DM53 in germany, considering their time lines arent quite at the same time.

yeah not the case, DM73 and DM83 require upgraded rheinmetall cannons to sustain the increased pressure. And most cannons around are licensed older rheinmetall cannon models

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@An_Pigeon

reminds me, upgraded polish / singaporean leo 2a4s, from the revolution kit
do in fact fire DM53, they have not gotten an upgraded cannon

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thank you for the information! I was more just refering to the capabilities of it in general, so DM63 and 53 could be fired by 2a4 intheory, same as the M928A3 could be fired by the V2 sep.

Perfect! so my anology was okay then!

Also the singaporean Leo2a4? I need to see that!, is it the same as the 2PL?

partialy, the polish only bought very few parts

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the singapoeans got the side armor and armor beak

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, but are missing a part of the turret frontal armor

The indonesians got most of the standard revolution kit ( not considering later armor upgrades to the frontal plate of the singaporeans)

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Full kit would additionaly have a rcws and additional smoke launchers (possible for germany)

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Then the version on crack with APS and should have gotten the L/55 as well i think

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I want this mate.
Jesus that looks wicked.

Heavily upgraded as well isn’t it

That would be wicked, did they mention indonesia anywhere?

Singapore leopard could now goto Germany as they made the official stance on it!.

Wow, ngl man they are imo the coolest leopard💀

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I guess f18 sells good right now. Having to fear noone at 12.3 with ir agms

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Dude I give up on this game…

Played my bmd-4M atgm non pens an xm803 then died to him.

I was trying to spade my T-64B, shot an m22 with 3bm22 and non penned

Edit: just non penned a Bradley with the 30mm on the bmd-4m

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The Leopard A1A1 that bounced off my Object 906 turret years back type experience right there.

Bad shots happen. Best you can do is learn from them, I have faith.

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Dude you can’t tell me to learn from the game. I’m very good at the game. I shot him directly, not on some weird angle, like center hull. Make me truly believe cheating is back in full force once more.

Especially given the state of the game as of late. They need a better anti cheat.

You might be thinking of M829A4.But even M829A4 was tested on the SEPV2. M829A3 entered service in 2003 and has been used in the M1A1 FEP M1A1SA,M1A2 SEP1/2. Possibly in the M1A1HC/M1A2 as well since the Marine Corps didn’t start upgrading to the FEP until 2006ish around when the first SEP iteration was completed.

M829A4 was the one most recently accepted into service and will be standard on the SEPV3.

https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/MCWP%203-12.pdf?ver=2016-05-16-085052-437 page 75

https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub/reports/FY2017/army/2017m1a2sep.pdf?ver=2019-08-19-113849-990

https://media.defense.gov/2006/Oct/12/2001712307/-1/-1/1/07-005.pdf

https://asc.army.mil/docs/wsh2/2005-wsh.pdf pg237 “FY04 M829A3 Fielded”

my bet is on it being a handout for the isralians

indonesia gonna be a part of japan if i remember right

If it would only be cheaters… that would be less annoying.

But in reality, these weird ass shots that behave strange all comes from a non aligned server. Thats why u use server crosshair in wot. But that dosnt excist here… so…well…shit lile that happens

Btw for the same reason you sometimes see dead tanks, that got killed while in move, rolling backwards, as the server sends you pc the position of the dead tank to late and for your pc client it stopped at a different position before you got the final position from the server.

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Greece has a lot of Leopards even unique ones no need for other country to Israel

Devs decisions, not ours…

Some matches get that way mate, try not get too wound up over it.
I remember last year some maniac brought a tiger 1 to top tier ,i fired an L27a1 at him and it ricoched into his turret 😂

Some days it’s worth it to take a wee break.

Yup, had an strf40 bill take a l23 to the side with basically no damage the other day and just had to sit for a moment and look at it.

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What’s the anti cheat got to do with volumetric and such taking a round ?

Alvis is just saying basically gotta take it on the chin, some spots on tanks are volumetric hell holes which will absorb rounds, hell the KPZ70/MBT70 have been taking ridiculous shots recently.

Don’t see how it’s related to cheating?

This document is from 2014 it says? The round service entry date i cant find specifically.

Ah tbe other source mentions the A4 varaint too.

Nice at a glance man let me read them more proper later. Thank you for sharing though!

I wouldn’t think so, they stated singapore will go where most relavant / necessary.

Isreal are also slated to get greece so realistically they’re going to get those leopards.
Cant say i agree with more leopards in every tree, just seems silly af

Indonesia to japan seems decent but again, more leopards everywhere is kinda of counter productive.

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Shoot the LFP on a T-90 and it usually dies.

The T-90 proving once again that it’s the perfect skill check vehicle. Bad players struggle against it while good players farm it.

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