you cannot tell the difference between the M1A2 and M1A1.
- I have stated, and shown you in the photos above that the 3BM46 can’t pen the damn M1A2.
- screenshot 1 is the 3BM46 VS the M1A2
- screenshot 2 is the 3BM60 VS the M1A2
shock horror, neither round can penetrate that nor can they pen the HC, which is due to the upgrade in armour. the HC has the same turret armour as the M1A2 more or less.
- 3bm46 VS M1A1 which it can penetrate.
so again, you are wrong in stating the 3BM46 can penetrate the damn M1A2 turret frontally.
- you’ve no idea what you’re talking about.
Just gonna leave this here.
- 3BM60 VS the Abrams frontally M1A2 Sep. same hull armour as the M1A2. There is the entire UFP that can bounce or stop 3BM60.
You should not be exposing the LFP. In which case, even when / if it is penetrated there is an entire RNG based system around the turret ring, as well as other modules on how much they soak / spall
Got a source for that other thant trust me bro?
- leclerc can also be penned and killed by rank 1s.
- CR2 the same LFP can be penetrated by the short 75mms.
- ariete the same.
It quite certainly isn’t fine.
Your arguments seem based around your experience of not being able to take out specifically russian vehicles?
if you aim for the turret ring, drivers view port, LFP if visible then you will almost always one tap it.
Again unless RNG dictates that spall isn’t generated, but the abrams turret, leopard turret as well as other modules like FCS also do this.
So again what is your point?
You’ve moved the goalpost yet again here mate
It has the exact same as any other MBT , the mantlet if you penetrate it will hit the breach, that isn’t even a debate worth having man, you’re constantly changing what you are saying to try make it seem the abrams breach weakpoint is somehow magically worse than anyone else.
- T90M the breach is narrower on both sides leaving room for “empty space” as you say.
-CR2 doesn’t even get composites on the breach as well as the same “empty space” issue that you brought up.
I’m not even gonna keep rattling through tanks like this as it is a genuine waste of a saturday evening.
You are now clutching at so many straws that you want to claim the abrams breach is somehow worse than the rest , even when it has Composites and B the breach fills the gap.
Unless someone can fire clean past it, same as the T90, T80, Ariete, leclerc, Challanger, etc etc which means its the same as every other top tier the breach is purposefully left that way for a weak point.
I mean they were about to roll them out for china and russia and realised it would be a huge nerf for them-
Which has already been rectified and they were confirmed not very long ago to be getting them.
You have an obsession with the T series as if they are somehow good. No one complained about modules being added when the auto loaders were added specifically to russian tanks.
as @Razielkaine accurately has said many times.
T series can lose their ability to reload even if the very top of the turret is shot, you can break their auto loader.
They are fairly balanced that way.
- Again you actively ignored the rest of that line.
The CR2 only has a 5 second reload aced, for four shells then it’s up to over 6 seconds Aced that means if you aren’t running an aced crew, your reload sits back at over 7 seconds. The CR2 should have 20 ish rounds in the ready rack.
CR2 also has a turret ring weak point under the breach which nukes the crew.
Can also be penetrated anywhere bar the two small sections of turret cheeks. Which are still modelled wrongly.
It’s armour doesn’t have massive holes in the middle of it at all. The abrams armour isn’t too far off being accurate, all that’s really missing is the volumetric turret ring, which wont make much of a difference, and some DU in the LFP composites, which again has already been proven that in game wont make much of a difference.
CR2 is one of the most well armoured MBT’s in the world, (BTW the abrams uses a variation of dorchester armour from the british) yet in game it has less than half of what it has IRL, which was proven by some maniac leaking the documents about it.
Not at all, have you even been playing top tier ?
The Mi28 spam? the same spam of helis which is seeing countless Z10ME’s , and apaches also slinging extremely long rang FnF missiles?
once again moving the goalposts to try make abrams seem worse than it is. The VT4A1 is substantially worse overall compared to abrams in every field bar having Gen 2 thermals and an APS:
that is it.
The Abrams isn’t that far off being correct at all mate.
You act as if it’s some super wonder weapon tank, the damn design is from the 1970s mate.
