Increasing the Maximum Battle Rating of Ground Vehicles and Helicopters

first of all i have over 80 games and not 40… but whatever. But second of all, having a negative KD in a tank dosnt really say “i am pro, i know what i am arguing about”

The ONLY downside the HSTV-L has is the low ammo, thats why i personally play the RDF, who dosnt have that issue.

And? Who care about a dead commander? He is not needed anyways xD
But try to hit smt fital on my HSTV when i am on a hill -15 degree gundepression. Good luck with that. But a 2S38, on a shallow hill, he shows a lot, and due to the lesser hill incline it needs to travel more distance to get into full cover and out of cover. As the steeper the hill the faster ich can fall back + the lesser distance i need to move aswell.

I also dont see the 2S38 at 10.3, but its a LOT worse then HSTV-L/RDF.
2S38 at 11.7 or smt similar would get asskicked like crazy. It aleady gets kicked ass on a lot of maps right now tbh.

I suggest you go to assault mode and research for the M829, you only need like one good successful match to unlock that round, then it becomes one of the easiest vehicles to spade.

Just played German and Russian top tier for the better part of two hours and it was a miserable experience. I hate this update.

Don’t hold down the trigger ?

does russia need a AA at 12.0? there is only ka 52 and premium tank there.

pantsir is still the strongest saclos AA and with a large margin at that, it cant be at a same br as the likes of ito 90.

its better than even the buk in many situations. stronger up close, stronger against multipathing targets and stronger against tanks and stronger against notching targets.

its the 3rd best AA in the game after buk & irist and should realistically go to 12.7, i dont think gaijin is going to do that cuz russian bias, but 12.3 atleast.

Yeah helis need protection, further more, low tier ones. I was flying my Mi-24V and before I could even do anything a plane killed me, next match same thing.

Helicopter gameplay is so bad that when they dropped actually useful helis into the game the community tossed the table because they usually main planes instead of helis

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Decompression is good but the spawn point amount for fire & forget missiles from helicopters need to be increased with how devastating they are currently in the game.

Ive always wanted to see them introduce variable SP costs based upon quantity. So you could bring say. 4-8 JAGMs for the current cost, but bringing 12 cost X1.5 and 16 cost X2 or something.

Though the biggest issue imo at the moment, is that helis can attack from the heli pad. Pop up, spam off, land, repeat way too quickly. 0 travel time.

So its time heli pads moved waaaay back, at least for top tier.

Personally, I disagree. But regardless, even if the hstvl is better, does that really warrant a full 1.7 br difference? Seems pretty biased to me considering very similar capabilities. It’s sad that playing 9.3 will 98/100 times end up in a full uptier so we have to face the op Russian lineup.

Overall a good thing, but it should be expanded to further separate some vehicles in the 7.7-9.7 range as it is also too densely packed still.

However: the VT4 being moved to 12.3, the same as the 99A, is a joke, as is the VT4A1 going to 12.7. The VT4 is both less armored and less mobile than the 99A, and arguably closer to a side-grade of the MBT-2000 considering the latter’s superior mobility and comparable armor protection. The VT4A1 is in a similar situation, as it is not superior to the 99A in its current state.

The VT5 also is in a very precarious position, as it is moving to 11.7, the same BR as the Type 90TK. At that rating, it offers virtually 0 advantage over the 90TK (slower reload, similar penetration, less postpen damage, similar mobility, but with ZERO armor). The VT5 should receive its improved BTA2 (DTC02) APFSDS, as well as other improved munitions, and possibly improve the armor according to the interview with the chief engineer (which was reported many times but has been rejected)

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On one hand I’m very upset how unplayable top-tier Israel is currently.

On the other hand if you are used to playing the Merkava Mk.4 at top-tier, play 11.3 Israel instead.

Israeli 11.3 is viable for the first time ever.

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Top tier is now 12.7
11.7 hasn’t been top tier in a long time

Germany has many 12.7 vehicles

Not really the abrams can be pain to play especially after the turret baslet, turret ring, tuuret drive and turret battery unit were added to abrams model, it is literally get pened = you are a road obstacle (no turret travers no engine)

Except for FAF helis i agree woth you, fafs shouldn’t be in game in the first place

Not with the damage

I had a really good match before going to bed yesterday, 11.3 might finally be saved

Wondering If the developers play this game?
VT-4A1 fire power same as ZTZ-99A, protection and mobility much worse than it. And 0.3 BR higher?
VT-4 = ZTZ-99A? Are you seriouse?
VT-5 firepower, mobility, protection much worse than Centaurus RGO and at the same BR?

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Im well aware though it is technically worse.

Frances round im sure is a good 10 of 20 mm worse flate pen wise as well.

Though the leclercs are extremely nice to use due to being extemely well rounded.

Unless I’m not remembering right , the OFL is a wee chunk worse than the BM60.

DCT 10 was just me being pedantic

Arguably the best light tank in game as well as under BRd in my subjective opinion.

VT-4 has slightly more armor than the ZTZ-99A while sharing the same round.
VT-5 is far more mobile than the Centauro RGO, with slightly better protection, and the round difference is what the RGO needs for being notably less mobile.
566mm of angled pen is more than enough at 11.7 and top BR for a light tank.

Buk is dogshit, even claws is better, just for radar update rate

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