The Merkava Mk.4M should not be the same BR as the Leo 2A7. If the Merkava is going to be 12.7 it needs major bug fixes.
Seriously. Who the heck thinks these two tanks are equivalent in game?
Youre all talking about 12.7, i just hope with this new br they can decompress the 8.0 area, because as much as i love playing 9.0 USA and 8.7 britain, and bullpuping tanks and SPAA that cant touch me, as well as pressing W on a leopard 1 in my xm803, i do think its a bit unfair for 8.0-7.7 tanks when they get full uptiers (which i assume they get alot because i get ALOT of downtiers playing 9.0-8.7)
Why did the hstvl and rdf get moved to 12.0 while the 2s38 is still at 10.3? Please explain to me how that makes sense? And this all means nothing considering 98/100 games are going to be up tiers anyway so what’s the point?
Just keep getting worse and worse. This only makes sense if more top tier vehicles are added. How bout y’all add another sep v2 with the hard kill APS system. Or even add the sep v3. Like what the actual ****
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T-72B3A at 12.3… really? This thing is at best a sidegrade to the T-72B3. It has NO commanders sights, only an iron cupola. This means no thermals. Instead, it has APS, which is borderline useless. Maybe against some helicopter ATGMs that do not come from the top… So in fact, it should be foldered at 11.7 with the T-72B3.
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Pretty lame excuse man blaming the KH38 for it all.
They launch them from within spaa range as well as you can spawn cap, the abrams is fine.
All the new FnF missiles from the fking helis. All of them, are making top tier a pain tn
That applies to all the big 3 though mate.
It’s armour is about all it’s got going for it.
The new reload will bring it up ti speed, the merkava im working towards now.
The leclercs are better IMO because they’re substantially more well rounded tanks and applicable in more situations…
Yup im glad in at 11.3 isreal rn.
Excuse for what?!? I’d rather deal with LMUR then KH38MTs. At least with LMUR, they aren’t as fast and you can know where to look.
ah so the armor doesn’t count?
Ariete has a better shell and spall liners, sep v2 is an abrams if it lost its gimmick of speed and whatever already nonexistant turret armor gets negated with how much roof junk can get overpressured, its literally a directly nerfed sep v1, so i dont really get why its above the regular SEP when its worse than the other abrams in literally every way, id even sah the 105mm one is better
N2M next best for israel is a chaparral… or a machbet
Theres no practical difference between those two.
Only spall liners I see are on the turret face that offers whopping 422mm of RHA equivalent protection at highest against kinetic and 675mm of RHA equivalent protection at highest against chemical; compared to Abrams that offers 750mm of RHA equivalent protection at highest against kinetic and 1120mm of RHA equivalent protection against chemical.
You also forget to mention that Abrams has much more better ammo rack with all shells in back of the turret protected by blowout panels. This also includes ready rack of 18 shells. Ariete stores most of its ammo in hull with exception of 15 ready racks round that are stored vertically in the turret (and four of them on the turret floor) with no blowout panels anywhere.
Only real advantage Ariete has over SEPv2 is mobility.
Id highly advise you to properly check the things you want to talk about before making comments in the future.
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No more SPAA decompression? As if planes exists from 11.0-12.0 lol
What in the world are the M1IP and M1A1 still the same BR for? There is a larger gameplay difference between the M1IP and the M1A1, than there is between the M1A2 and M1A2 SEP, which apparently you’ve determined warrants a 0.7 BR difference solely because of thermal generations and useless TUSK.
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Ammo racks dont work anymore, that is unless youre ok running an entire game with zero HEAT, AND assuming you dont get shot in the front and the door breaks
Not to mention the turret ring means getting shot literally anywhere in the abrams is a guaranteed kill
Literally the meta of top tier is reload and mobility, ariete wins in mobility and they have the same reload so
Not to mention all im saying is the SEP V2 should stay at around 12.0 - 12.3, its literally the single worst variant of the abrams in the game
ammorack that works under certain conditions is better than none, so Abrams still has advantage.
Explain to me like im five, how is Abrams turret protection against kinetic worse than Ariete according to you?
I was under impression best top tier tank currently in game is Leopard 2A7V, which has 23.4HP/T.
Also you are effectively, but indirectly, calling Ariete “meta” tank since it fits into your description of what meta tank at top tier is, which, lol, do i need to say more?
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No, because im statistically right then, italy has the second highest winrate in ground rb right now
Look at the x ray, and see how comically large the horizontal drive is. The tanks effectively dead if you get shot anywhere below the mantlet
That condition is literally only if you get shot in the back of the turret from the side, it literally never happens
so which number is larger, case use: 1 (Abrams ammorack) or case use: 0 (Ariete ammorack)
Right now? On which data you base that assumption?
Because statshark data has data only up to last month and it says 4th best, after France (1st), Sweden (2nd) and Japan (3rd). And lets not forget that Italy has 2A7V through Hungary, which very likely is the sole reason its 4th.
Such large weakness, as opposed to shooting ariete through the entiriety of turret face, ie. the most protected place in tank.
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Huh… Tiger UHT in 13.0 gaijin really no one play their own game . just so confidience think their “balance”
is perfect . What a joker balance team . and if I remember right , they buff rafale ? that broken OP jet ? JOKER TEAMS , JOKER THINKING , JOCKER BALANCE , U GUYS JUST A JOKE
But hey, after this day we can clap our hands for biggest winners of this Chatgp made “compression”
WInners are,
11.3 what did stay in 11.3
UK 11.7 Challlenger 2’s what stick in there.
type 90/Fujis and AA of japan
13.0 Jets since they just got more food for cas and shorter queues.
And biggest losers.
Germany, ( Poor flakbus being only 11.7 in there :D)
USA 11.7 , demolished on oblivion , and still not having jet to counter rafale / EF problems.
M1A1 is gonna be nasty till next BR changes.