TAR has datalink channels IRL , just not directly to the missile. TAR transmits target coordinates to either the comand center ( CCP ) or the TELAR. CCP has up to 36 simultaneous target designation channels which it transmits to the TELAR or TIGR depending combat asset disposition. CCP is just transparent in the game .
That is what I’m talking about, to missile DL, you can get that from the message context.
TAR currently has direct 18 to missile channels. While it is technically a thing, we do not have DL between system parts in any meaningful way.
Incorrect , DL between system parts in literally what allows multi-vehicle AA systems to be a thing in the game.
In any meaningful way. There are no quirks to that in game, it just exists.
Yeah that’s the point.
That is what i mean, it just exists, there are no quitks to it, DL between systems does not exist in any meaningful way. Systems are treated as extensions of one vehicle.
Example of a quirk: M3 TELAR gets data all the time, even in transport, when DL antenne is folded, and it itself would be disabled.
Well, even as an abstracted and downgraded system it was denied for aircraft to get IIF indicators, but then the Rafale and A-10 have it so who knows what the actual intent is.
I wonder if it will be able to be homed in on by Anti-Radiation Missiles once they get implemented.
I don’t get what you are trying to argue about ? It is literally how the game models things , TAR are modeled with DL channels :
What we are talking about here is DL between parts of one SAM, so Search radar and Launchers in WT case.
But Buk and SLM work in a different way.
SLM radar is the only radar in the system, launchers are unable to provide DL in game, as the have no radars in themselves, and radars in game are used to provide DL, so TRML takes over it.
Buk has Launchers radars that do exactly that, with TAR being just for target aquisition.
This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.
This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.
1 Like
This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.
You are using in game and IRL concepts interchangeably which is what leads to confusion.
IRL , TRML TAR ( much like 9S18M1-3 ) does not provide fire control or DL directly to the missile , it is the CCP that is responsible for that :
Game does not model CCP, it simplifies things for obvious reasons. What matters is that those TAR do provide target updates which are used for mid course correction, directly or indirectly is irrelevant to the game.
Hence why both TAR receive DL channels !
Ok, lets make this clear. yes, TRLM-4D does not provide DL. It is done by the launcher antenne, the smaller white one
But in game you need Radar in order to provide DL, so it is added to the TRML-4D as a stopgap.
Lets look at the Buk then. We know that just like SLM radar, its radar does not provide DL, but launcher does not have a radar, so it is made as a stopgap, untill correct mechanic is implemented.
No, that is not the case.
The radar is right here, and it has the DL channels. There is no reason to create a stopgap, when its real life feature is right here. Just like irl, it is the TELAR radar that has the to missile DL. The only ahistorical thing here is that the radar has half the DL channels, but gaijin decided to limit it to the amount of missiles on one launcher, feel free to report if you want.
looks like the dev server is up again. did they change anything with the buk m3 ?
1 Like
TELAR radar band was changed from J to G
1 Like
You are just jumping on to conclusions created by own confusion .
There is no ‘‘stopgap solution’’ it’s literally how the game models things in order to simplify , WT is not a simulator so don’t expect every subsystem to be modeled it won’t .
-
IRST-SLM has only one radar the TAR thus the TAR gets it’s DL channels from the CCP that is not physically modeled in the game ( it’s transparent ) .
-
BUK-M3 has in essence two radars ( three if we count both TELARs ) the TAR gets it’s DL channels from the CCP that is not physically modeled in the game ( it’s transparent ). The TELAR gets it’s DL channels from it’s own radar .
What is so hard to understand ? This is how the game handles multi-vehicle systems.
Infact unless there is specific documentation stating that 9S18M1-3 can only track 18 targets simultaneously , it’s DL count should be increased to 36 since CCP is the limiting factor not the radar .
TELAR band should be C