F-5A is significantly worse than the F-5E.
China’s F-5 is carried by those 9Js.
Yes there’s a difference at 60 degrees but not under that, even at 30 degrees the ztz88b o my has slightly better performance. It also doesn’t have an ATGM with no reload penalty and something like 4kg of explosive mass. It’s also a beam riding missile if I remember correctly. You’re comparing a 100mm cannon to a 105, of course the 105 is going to be better, and even then it’s by tiny metrics.
ATGM doesn’t matter on most maps cause most maps aren’t flat.
T-55M for Sweden fires a vastly superior round to T-55AM-1 at the same BR.
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The F-5s problem is how Gaijin model IR seekers vs Aircraft temps. Thats all they need to fix. Fighting the F-5s (especially with so many premium F5s) feels bad and it does for good reason.
F-5C
Harrier Gr1
Fix how the game handles IR signatures. Fix sooooo many problems in the game and the F-5C feels signifcantly more balanced without changing its BR at all. Thats the problem. it flares too easily, because its a really really cold target
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Neither the ztz88a or b has that much pen, I’m not even at home and I know that. The a has slightly more pen at like 350mm or something close to that. It also has an APS which makes it much more survivable. The AM is 100% better than the ztz88a/b
F-5C, P-51H, Jagdpanzer IV, Jagdpanther, and ofc the 2S38 and VIDAR.
Yes and it loses the atgm and APS so it’s fair
That is by far the worst part about facing F-5s. I can lock an afterburning Mig-23 from 7km away with some missiles, but I can’t lock an F-5 that’s 4k away.
They literally have that much pen. 194x2 or 194 /cos 60 = 388.
The T-55AM-1 is inferior to T-55M of Sweden/Finland, and vastly inferior to Type 88 of China.
Yeah, they also defeat IR missiles instantly. Its why the flares feel so OP on it. Most other things have to do something to defeat an IR missile, but the F5s barely need to do more than drop a flare
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Go do a protection map of any heat round in the game vs the ztz88’s then do the same with the t55am, it isn’t even close. On top of that it has an aps at an absurdly low br. It’s strategically placed at a br where it will perform the best and that’s what I said in my post. I have 200+ games in this thing and I’m telling you it is too low a br currently.
HEATFS isn’t the primary projectile at 8.7, APFSDS is.
Only Britain is firing APDS at 8.7.
I own the T-55AM-1 as well, and am good in it.
That’s irrelevant cause every single 9.0 in the game is vastly superior to T-55AM-1.
Not a single 9.0 MBT is on-par with or worse than T-55AM-1.
The t55am performs just fine at 9.0 I have it in my lineup along with the t62m1 and the object 279, it has a good atgm, good protection including an APS, a good apfsds and the same mobility as basically every other Russian mbt in the br range
As for the answer to the question. The Su-25s with their S-250 rockets are quite annyoing in GRB currently, those probably need some tuning. Also their IRCM is really really annoying in some aircraft ,especially those less suited for gun fighting.
I also basically hate playing the 10.0 Britain ground line-up, even though its really good, because of the soviet tanks it faces constantly at that BR are really really unfun to fight against. Some of those tank way more than they should.
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Using an inferior vehicle as backup doesn’t make it that BR in capability.
T-55AM-1 does not have APS.
Yup decompression is the bigger issue. The F-5E sits at a weird spot with other 10.7-11.0 jets like the J35XS and J7E. They greatly outperform jets at or below them in BR, but get shut down in uptiers as the focus shifts to BVR and powerful missiles.
You could probably fill 2 or 3 BRs with just the jets between 10.7 and 11.3. I dont get how Gaijin have let this problem get so bad
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The am gets additional armor and the amd has an aps, that’s literally my point, both tanks are immune to heat and get constant downtiers, that is why they shouldn’t be 8.7, even if SOME 9.0s are better it is the best 8.7 and it’s not even close
AM-1 is not immune to HEATFS, and “constant downtiers” is anecdotal at best a guess at worst.
ALL 9.0s are better than AM-1, all of them. Not a single 9.0 is on-par with AM-1 in capabilities cause all are superior.
Faster/same or better armor, better ammo, thermals, etc.
Have you ever stopped to think that it might be better than all 8.7s?
It should never face anything below 8.0 period. That is why everyone considers it undertiered.
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