Anyway, until they add propper missiles to other nations, Im not coming back to the game, since it makes me feel that the effort and time I have put into grinding these vehicles, was a total waste of my time, wich is limited.
If your biggest problem in the su27 is not being able to see the names of the plane who is tracking you then you have no right to say skill issue while playing the best top tier jet.
(Answering to DIGITAL SHAOLIN@live)
First things first, I was not complaining about anything here. Just reply to someone who didnt know the cons of the aircraft.
I was speaking of the Cons of Su-27 according to Ground Realistic Battle here (so no big red diamond, undectable spaag, poor ground capability ect…). That’s why these details make a huge difference. I only view ARB as a non sense game mode to spade my planes or to grind events… After that I switch to GRB to kill some CAS.
(Replying to MysteriousHonza)
- Of course you can win against someone in a 1v1 dogfight but that doesnt mean that it’s flight model isn’t bad. The disadvantage of having a bad energy retention (coupled to bad turn rate) is that after you managed to get a kill on one guy you will not have any energy left to keep the momentum, making you an easy kill because you are a huge and slow target (In the situation if you do a cobra).
Here I’m just underlining the point that playing Su-27 with its current flight model is hard and require lot of skill. It’s not a new player friendly experience, + it requires you to know how to do BVR which is a hard mechanic (Not speaking about me here). In comparison to F-16 which is way easier to dogfight with and use in a general sense. It’s important to take this into account because most people forget about how things plays and only see the pros of an aircraft and complain about not being able to do that without seeing the whole situation.
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No this RWR is only present in the 80s aircraft after that it’s the SPO-150 which is way better.
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Of course, but that doesnt change the fact that it’s air to ground capability are bad. And because you speak of alternative in USSR. I let you see that they are not as good as NATO (not complaining here, that make sense. And I think that’s why USSR received the Su-27 has a anti-NATO-CAS). And yes you can say that it doesnt matter in ARB. But the game isnt only about this game mode.
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It’s at least a sub-par amount of flares compared to NATO planes. (Not mentioning F-14B, JAS39 with ~700 flares here). You just can’t say its better than 12.0-12.3.
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Yes, im used to it (Was not complaining here but whatsoever… Matter of fact it’s a cons)
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I give you that point
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Yes in ARB, but was speaking about GRB here.
amraam should be smokeless too
Not a problem with better RWR. That this aircraft doesnt get.
- It’s the best against blind aircraft or un-aware people. But as soon as they start preflaring with their 700 flares it gets different. So I find it pretty balanced. BTW I was still not complaining. Thanks for your advice I know how to play.
(Replying to apb1999)
Of course they will. Fox-3 will come in 2024. I understand that the top tier environnement can get overwhelming some times. People should understand what Gaijin have done for years. If people doesnt understand that there will always be a meta. And that top tier is in constant change. They should either don’t play top tier or just take a brake until top tier is no longer top tier. At the end, they will not play top tier and it’s ok.
I always see top tier as a beta state of the game. There is a lot of work to do. And it takes time. Ofc between these additions there will be top dogs and after another update they will be countered by better planes so on and so forth. We can be grateful that they give every nations a top tier aircraft in one update (RIP Italy). That allows for better balancing. But let them cook for other additions.
Sorry for replying in one block, I have a limit of message
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Chances of getting a early variant of AIM-120 is very low. Since PL-12 is superior to AIM 120A/B so they will definitely add a PL-12 equivalent AIM-120 variant.
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fox 3 will end the ER meta because of turnaround time.
you can stop guiding a fox 3 and run or notch or hit the deck. but you need to guide the ER.
plus for some fckd reason they nerfed PD radar which can now lock chaff (which is literally impossible IRL)
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you cannot immediately leave the missile to do its own thing unless you’re like 10km away…
mig_23 showed this in his testing. you’d die to the r-27er before your amraam could go active
R-27ER is faster than AIM-120. So ER can hit you before your AIM-120 can reach the target. You might be able to kill that guy as well.
fox 3 have a LOAL capability
meaning if there is anything in the air in that general direction, they will lock, track and intercept it. in WT this will be possibly game breaking as players can simply fire in the direction the enemy is in at the start of the match even without lock. as soon as the missile picks anything up. it starts to lead.
while i respect mig_23 i must state that while the ER has a range and a speed advantage, it does not have fire and forget. and with appropriate kinetic action, the ER will flail hopelessly
yep i agree, but the ER isnt independent. which is the main advantage fox 3 missiles have over fox 1.
the aircraft with fox 3 can go cold.
the aircraft with fox 1 cant
(while in active combat)
yeah. i know.
however, launching and immediately turning away will massively reduce the chances of the missile finding its target unless you’re just outside of its seeker range.
obv we will have to guide it to a certain extent (while kinetically fighting the ER) and then turn cold.
a blessing the ER doesnt have.
The blessing of ER is outranging 120 and being significantly faster. Over like 20km range, ER is significantly better. only with launches around 20KM, amraam gets the advantage due to keeping its energy and being able to go cold shortly after launch. I dont see a single reason why russia should have best bvr missile all the time when they already have best dogfight missile.
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yk what, if u have the ER, and i have the 120, im sure i can defeat you easy. and im not saying ur bad. just saying that i may not be able to explain very well, but i know how to use the 120 and the ER. and i know how to defeat both as well.
i dont think i said that. and yes i think the ‘best’ missile should have equivalents in all TT’s.
since gaijin cares so much about balance…
they should just kill everyone who plays this game
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Gaijin haven’t cared about balance ever since they added the 23MLD. The pendulum has been swinging one way or another ever since then. There is no room for balance in modern air combat but there is room for parity. Yes an F-16 with AMRAAMs will lose to a mig29 with 27ERs at any range above 20 miles but closer in the F-16 at least has a chance to push off the 29. Currently if someone with 27ERs decides to push you there is nothing you can do at any range. You either defend or you die, if you had AMRAAMs though you could yeet one in the general direction at 10 miles and know, even if you dont get a kill, you can go offensive since the 29 won’t be pointing at you
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yeah i was being sarcastic
They didn’t even try to close the gap in the capabilities of the new vehicles, we had a broken-winged eagle carrying 4 lumps of iron weighing nearly 1 ton called AIM7, the radar was netf and that caused The sparrow happily exploded like it had done for the past two years but more fiercely than ever.
I died a lot just because the F15a’s wings were too weak, I wanted to fly as fast as possible but had to deal with the wing breaking when rolling, there was no way to avoid that as long as I had to dodge the missiles and try to launch something without the HMD.
Maybe this is just a whining from USA mains like me. Gaijjn is making a mess of everything from the sky to the ground
and before that it was hug the ground or eat a sparrow with no in-between.
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Ahh yes, back when notching was as simple as just not pointing at the enemy, when the sparrows had a 50/50 chance to hit an AFK climber. Come on, the difference between the 7E and 24R is less than 5%, meanwhile the 27ER has almost 50% more dV than the 7M
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It just makes american mains look pathetic. They were happy as a turtle in mud when they had the best SARH missile. Now that they have the 2nd best SARH missile it’s cause for tantrums and abandoning the game. I’m sorry that your toys aren’t perpetually the best at everything with every update.
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