Hello everyone
I love playing with the Il-28 especially in ARB and Air simulator, and when playing with it, I prefer by much try to land in a more difficult but “realistic” way, so with landing gears…
From the previous update I noted how it has become pretty impossible to land in that way with the Il-28, due to the landing gears that require more than 40 seconds to be completely deployed, against the about 10 seconds before the last big update.
I don’t know the real time an Il-28 would deploy its landing gears but I don’t think that an early Cold War bomber require more time to do it than a pre-war biplane…
How this problem can be solved?
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If you think it is a bug, you can report it on the bug report website Community Bug Reporting System
Alredy looked on the bug report site where other people already noted the issue…
also it doesn’t look like a bug
It’s annoying but realistic: “The Il-28 had pneumatically-actuated tricycle landing gear, with the dual wheel nose gear retracting backward, and the single-wheel main gear retracting forward and turning 90 degrees to lie flat in the engine nacelles”
https://www.airvectors.net/avil28.html
Basically (i think) it was slow in order to turn around and fit right in with out damaging the early 50’s engines
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40s is what you would expect from hand cranked undercarriage such as used in the B2FC and F3F in the US tree, or the emergency operation available in many War time fighters and bombers.
There are videos on YT that show the Il-28 on take off and although slow by modern standards the retraction sequence does indeed appear to be in the region of 10s from first movement to doors closed.
Not seen a lowering but there’s no reason to suspect it would be significantly slower, in fact likely a little quicker with gravity assistance.
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Yeah noticed this when I landed doing my normal procedure and BAM… landing gear crushed… huh? Next time I flew I watched the landing gear doing it’s “1 frame per second” equivalent of deploying…
I know they don’t note all changes in patch notes, but going from 10ish seconds to 40+ seconds is a significant difference. It should have been noted as a change due to a report, but instead the bug report site is saying it’s not a bug and people have to provide sources showing the 40 seconds isn’t a bug…
So it looks like it’s going to stay that way. Which is fine if it was that in real life – just provide a patch note change saying so.
I find though you can start deploying much higher than landing gear rip speed, as long as you’re in the process of slowing down so that you’ll be below rip speed by the time they get mostly deployed. (I’m not sure at what point exactly in the deployment it considers to be down enough for rip speed to apply).
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I don’t think that 40+ seconds to deploy landing gear is realistic even for early cold war jet. It looks more like emergency handcranking. I mean, take Tu-14T for comparison, it was created as a competitor to Il-28, yet it has much faster landing gear deployment, where method of deployment is exactly the same (gear turns 90 degrees and hides in engine nacelles), likely using same, pneumatic system.
I found some Il-28 instruction manual, maybe someone proficient in russian could help us read through it and see if landing gear deployment speed is mentioned anywhere.
I tried searching in russian part of internet (with help of translator of course, my russian is terrible), but couldn’t find anywhere mention about how long it takes to deploy landing gear.
My guess is we could also try to locate and contact a museum that has one of Il-28s and ask if they have knowledge on this technical detail.
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