And you still wont fix the fact you can spawn 4 killometers away from the battlefield with 8 FaF missiles and rearming before the missiles even hit
You wont fix volumetric being garbage
You wont fix the fact you can spawn in a plane with a full loadout with bombs with a single scout
The problem will be still there but youre simply too stupid to think about it
You want only the thing YOU want without looking at a larger spectrum
You might enjoy your TO but you wont have fixed anything at all,meaning all these posts you keep yapping about are literally useless spam
I couldnt care less mate,like literally,youre not helping nor even trying to provide things the whole thread its all about,you might wanna shut up or be actually useful for once
Of course it will fix as there will always be someone in SPAA/air waiting for that.
Doesn’t have anything to do with CAS.
It won’t be a problem in a mode where everyone wants to do that.
As I couldn’t care less about a person who can’t understand that if both teams want combined gameplay, things are already going to be much more balanced
Oh now you talk about CAS?You keep talking about tanks?WHILE THE WHOLE POST ITS ABOUT CAS AND SPAA
Youre literally stupid atp
Fix the problem? ❌
Yap about a mode that Gaijin will never make? ✔️
No it wont be,youre literally the worst yapper i have ever seen in this post,you might wanna stop yapping about TO mode and continuing to spam in this thread with stuff that are not related thank you
Tanks are a part of ground battles and problem with balance is a problem with balance when it comes to ground vs air.
The whole post is not about SPAA.
After watching around 10 years of constant nerfs/buffs to air/ground regarding the issue of balance, there won’t be any simple solution to this problem if there won’t be a place for people wanting just to play tanks.
I only talk about stuff that is related, you might not like it but it is true ;)
So far all these that have been said you ignored cause youre an arrogant bot :
Making bombs and FaF missiles way more expensive
Shoving airfields and helipads way further away from the battlefield making so you have to actually leave the base to shoot your missiles or release bombs = insanely higher risks for CAS players
Make already existing SPAA a bit stronger
Implement in a lineup FOR FREE an interceptor with HE belt and 4 AA missiles (example of a loadout) with like 12 minutes of fuel
Improve overall map designs to make them more playable both ground and air
Implement potential SPAA battery stations with really long range coverage
Add new reticles to SPAA to make it easier to aim at planes or helies when in range
Decompressing BR brackets to make it more fair for some vehicles
Improve or make a new engine for the game so sounds will be properly picked up and heard and vehicles/planes/helicopter properly shown when looking at them instead of pooping out of no where last second when its too late
Remove the insane post pen damage for some belts that some planes have
Since you wanna talk about tanks since you only want to talk about that
Fix the engine of the game for the same reason i stated before
Improve anti cheat
Fix volumetric issues which plague the game to this day
Fix maps and spawncamping (Which can be possible to counter it if the maps were properly made)
Decompress the BR brackets
Fix SPAA at 8.3 plaguing the whole BR bracket by removing their overpressure system
As far for now,this is all i remember
You want all these to not be fixed or done but a whole gamemode that wont change anything from those above…make it make sense
Doesn’t help with the issue, only makes it happen less which is not a solution.
Won’t change a thing if people don’t want to use them
In what way?
Again: Won’t change a thing if people don’t want to use them
Overall problem, not just with CAS.
You actually should start reading before replying.
You have mentioned many problems of the game itself that doesn’t have anything to do with CAS balance in combined mode and say that what I have said that has only to do with again CAS balance in combined mode and say that because it won’t solve them then it is not a good solution? Nice.
Reread the topic of the name and then read what a Ground Battle is.
What now?
Another 10 years of constant nerfs/buffs that won’t change a thing as if there are players who just want to play tanks and will ignore spawning air/spaa then any change to them won’t solve anything.
I hope this AI slop will help You understand it more clearly:
Spoiler
Think of GRB like a team sport with 3 roles:
tank players
SPAA players (anti-air tanks)
plane/heli players (CAS – Close Air Support)
Right now a lot of people join GRB and only want to play tanks. They never bring SPAA or planes.
What happens now (with many tank-only players)
On each team you often get something like:
10–12 players: only tanks
2–3 players: sometimes take CAS
1–2 players: sometimes take SPAA or a fighter
Result:
CAS has tons of free targets
Planes and helis see 10+ tanks that:
have no way to shoot them down
don’t want to spawn SPAA or planes
So CAS farms them easily.
Very few people actually fight the planes
Only 1–2 SPAA or fighters try to defend:
They get overrun
Or they spawn too late
So it feels like CAS is broken, even if its stats aren’t crazy.
Team “power” is unbalanced
A team with many tank-only players is basically saying:
“We refuse to use one third of the game (air).”
The enemy team that uses CAS + SPAA will usually win.
What changes if tank-only players leave GRB
If all players who want “tanks only” leave GRB (or get their own mode), then:
Everyone left knows GRB is combined arms
People who stay:
accept that there will be planes
bring lineups with tanks and SPAA/fighters
More SPAA and fighters on the field
For every CAS plane that spawns you get:
more SPAA driving around
more fighters climbing to kill them
Planes die faster and can’t farm as freely.
Fewer free, undefended tanks
There are less players who:
sit in open fields
never spawn AA
never try to contest air
So CAS doesn’t get 10 easy kills per match anymore.
Balance shifts without touching stats
Even if Gaijin doesn’t change a single number (bombs, rockets, repair costs):
CAS gets shot down more
CAS has fewer easy targets
Tanks get more actual protection
So just changing who is in GRB already changes the air/ground balance:
Many tank-only players = CAS faces almost no counter → feels overpowered
Fewer tank-only players, more combined-arms players = more SPAA & fighters → CAS becomes riskier and more balanced
That’s why getting rid of tank-only players from GRB (by giving them a separate mode or making them leave) by itself already helps with air/CAS balance in that mode.
If people dont want to spawn SPAA or planes its always THEIR fault to begin with,if you have the ways of countering it why you only complain and not act?
Like wtf are you complaining about if you have the ways to counter it then?
Tanks cant kill planes or helicopters,bring air or spaa
Spaa cant deal with it properly,buff them till they can or add better SPAA in general
If you dont want to contest AIR even if they give you free fighters,its a YOU problem not the game
You have a fat ass radar where you can pick and lock every single object that the radar its able to pick so yes…you can deal with
If you cant deal with it with SPAA cause their stats are too bad and they underperform,buff the god damn SPAAs making them able to contest air properly
I mean some tanks do a better job at anti air sometimes than SPAAs so…i mean you could if you have line of sight with that thing and can reach it with your cannon angle
Which you want so desperately to remove it from the game making 3/4 of the game useless for 90% of the community,what a great fucking fix you told us mate
Of course not if air users have anything in their brain.
There is something called a limit that You can raise Your gun/mg and smart air users know about it.
No one wants to remove anything.
Not to mention that math doesn’t add up here.
If people who wanted just to play tanks were minority then getting them out of combined mode wouldn’t change much for people playing combined mode. If You suggest that if we add TO then combined mode will suffer, it only means that people who just want to play tanks are majority
Let not talk how a helicopter can tank a HEAT shell
You might argue “Thats lower br and its not the same and bla bla bla bla” dont care
It does
What you will be able to use in TO mode?Only 2 strong tanks per each BR,you will never see someone running in a Marder for example since it cant that much against a whole army of tanks
You will be literally unable to use,all the SPAA line,all the planes (We already cant even use naval in combined matches so thats literally already one part of the game yetted away),helicopters gone too
Matchmaking will suffer regardless
TO mode will not be made for this exact reason and gaijin said it,stop pressuring onto it and put proper fixes already