If we are getting su-30sm why can’t we get su-30mki?

over-my-dead-body-mad

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and people complain about germany lmao

they gotta see this

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Are you going to go to the Thai F/A 18 thread too or just picking up on India? ^^

Haven’t seen no Thai f-18 thread

After we get MKK and MK2 for China.

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Sat in this same forum subsection :)

Wow… a guy not even demanding but just asking if its feasible is equal to this???
Smh.

These people cannot be saved.

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You replied to me, I didnt make a demand, the OPs writing suggests either being young or 2nd language, also not so much “demand” either.

Its a question too comrade )))

Heck, you even said “stop asking” in your initial comment lol. Not “stop demanding”.

Still not seeing a valid argument against it tbf.

Thailand canceled their f-18 purchase in 1998 cuz they couldn’t afford them

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This forum man…

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initially i replied to dave. you replied to me

sure… i wont look that deep into it since any assumption you and i make could be wrong. however it is obvious he desires to see the indian Su-30MKi in the british tree. when the mere presence of india in the UK is a matter of intense debate too.

bro if youre gonna view everything that disagrees with you as an invalid argument then idk what to tell you. ive argued with people like that and they never change. so id rather not get involved.
if you still wanna hear, it is because of tech tree originality, gameplay experience and historical accuracy.

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No. India is not a UK Subtree, they have like 5 vehicles total, 3 being premium. You have 2 MBTs, 2 SPAA and 1 Fighter, and none of them are in a single subtree-like state. Look at the Finnish Subtree, its literally a line. Or the Thai Subtree. India is just there to make money or to give Britain another 2 10.3 SPAA… for whatever reason… either way, Britain does not need this. You have the Eurofighter, giving the UK a full Indian subtree means a Rafale, Su-30MKI, Mig-29, Mirage 2000, Mig-27, Mig-23, Mig-25, and a few more Soviet + French jets. Britain does not need this. I’d be down for having Britain receive the CF-18 (as its basically the F/A-18A/B, and can provide some interesting CAS for Britain at 12.7. And I really don’t see the CF-18 coming to the game any other way, USA has the -18A.

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“so why can’t we get it???” vs “is it possible-”
The tone is completely different. The person asking for Su-30MKI for Britain is talking as if Gaijin owe Britain some sort of compensation. The person asking about the Thai F/A-18 is purely because of the delay w/ the long awaited (and honestly, pretty late) F-2. The F-2 should’ve been the first AESA in the game, and come with the 4.5 Generation aircraft- as it was the first AESA fighter and the first 4.5 Generation aircraft (being an upgraded F-16 Agile Falcon). To try to say that we should show the same energy to someone asking a simple question, compared to someone practically demanding something is just stupid.

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yea why tf is it not coming gaijin???
When su 30 mki was the first one and su 30sm is inspired by the mki variant… Also it has unique missiles… SU 30 WITH MICA + MAGIC 2 + ASTRA + ALL RUSSIAN MISSILES

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TO ALL THE GUYS OUT THERE SAYING ooh it is a russian jet… It is produced by india and upgraded by india, was tested earlier in india… Entered service much earlier in india than ussr… is indigenously upgraded and modified in india with different indian systems israeli radar indian and french missiles… Does the russian variant have this??? So fucking stop calling it russian…

WE HAVE so many other aircraft in game that have been just copy paste and have been given to nations bcoz they purchased the variant… The finnish getting a copy of f18 all the nations getting f16 is an example of copy paste…
SU 30 MKI is unique aircraft for any of the dumb brain dead bastards saying ooh britain should not get everything

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Britain got the super hind the gripen. the gripen was copy paste and was actually better than the swedish variant at launch…

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Debate for people who have a weird dislike of only India being in the Tree, fine when it comes to other countries which use US or French gear though interestingly…

And it isnt about disagreeing not being a valid argument, I put down a valid argument as to why its arguably an Indian vehicle which is a valid vehicle for the UK, to be met by a “well you are delussional and it doesnt belong here” type rebuttal, no actual argument.

Okay, so tech tree orginality, and accuracy…

First the tech tree originality argument, do you heavily oppose the centurions in non UK trees? The shermans in non US trees? The M48s and 60s all over the place too? The Hunters, Vampires and Meteors outside of the RAF? The new F/A 18s going to non US trees? The leopard 1s and 2s around everywhere? This argument seems to only really come up, again, for India these days.

Historical accuracy, the planes literal design was in conjunction with the Indian government and IIRC HAL(?). They heavily modified the requirements and development of the project, improving it drastically and then went on to build like 95% of the planes at home. Its hard to get a more Indianisation project and put it on the table lol. I mean hell, at this rate if it ever comes, F35 shouldnt go to anyone but the US, given they make most of it and only tiny parts are non US (like the UK making helmets lol)?

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The Indians are a UK Subtree, theres like 200 posts from the devs saying this, just because YOU dont want it doesnt mean it isnt. lol.

Man I really should have saved the compilation image someone made of Smin repeatedly saying its a sub tree.

i dont care about that. its a russian jet in service with india. if anything, it shouldve been a subtree of russia. but they dont need one. i know it is officially a british subtree. doesnt mean i cant disagree with that.
india should have been an independent tree. why have the best russian, best swedish AND the Eurofighter in the same tree?

you know as well as i do that i didnt say the first part of this sentence

it doesnt belong here because of a combination of all the above arguments as well as the following

if they are captured vehicles, i oppose them. if they are purchased and put into service, i dont.

slightly*

licensed production

we cannot ignore that the UK doesnt and will never need to get the new best jet of the russians.

sometimes there is a need. other times theres a want.

UK doesnt need the best russian jet there is in WT. not now. not ever

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Sod it I went to find them for ya

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