Su-34 doesn’t have a thermal targeting pod, and KH-38s will still be 20km… but without a targeting pod the launch range from Su-34 will be less than that of Su-25SM3 cause target acquisition is important.
While I can lock and launch consistently at 18km using Harrier GR7, I cannot do that using F-4F ICE… cause the missile’s integral thermal solution is not good enough.
Same thing will happen with Su-34.
Su-30? or Su-33? get a thermal targeting pod.
usually, it’s 12km if use track mode, 20km will be a point mode, not so useful, and you can still use KH-38’s thermal, it’s good enough. and KH-38 do have speed advantage, so it will make SU-34 a good F-16C equal.
except no external all-aspect pod will make KH-38ML useless, because you need to fly towards SPAA to keep lock. But if so, it will be too OP because it can really attack in 20km away.
Speed of a 9000 meter altitude AGM launch does not really matter.
If the target died before the missile arrived… the targets still gone.
Also no aircraft can attack from further than 20km away currently as 20km is the max range of all targeting systems at this time.
I mean 20km max, not over. and speed do matter, it affects time left for SPAA to shoot it down, and if the target move to something’s back and lost lock.
I’m sorry,but this is not the case
People are comparing the Kh-38 to the Brimstones,when in reality the Brimstones are far superior even without their LOAL mode. The Kh-38 we have in game sure has a lot of range,but you need to constantly lase the target in order to get a hit,and this can expose yourself to weaknesses like a SPAA that is outside your FoV or a CAP jet approaching onto you.
Real-life Brimstones,on the other hand,are the literal definition of “random bulls*** go!” :you mass spam them into the general direction and they pick up different targets while also discriminating the enemies from the allies. If a Brimstone locks you,you better have a building near you to take cover or chaff smoke/EW jammers because otherwise you’re dead in one hit.
Imagine playing like usual,dying outta nowhere due to a Brimstone and seeing in the killcam a GR.4 approaching the airfield,that is honestly annoying
And before anyone starts with the “they’re adding the Grom to the Russians” the Grom is a Kh-38 that has a GLONASS seeker instead of a laser one, meaning that the simple counter to it is moving 50-80 metres away. It’s a glorified JDAM, that’s it
AGM65 can only lock onto a moving target within 10 km, and KH38 is obviously different. If 154 can’t match KH38, how can AGM65D match KH38?
In fact, you are the one who doesn’t understand. AGM84 is only an anti-ship missile, and AGM84E is an air-to-surface missile. In fact, AGM84E just thought that his man-in-the-loop mechanism was denied.
The United States should always have the strongest CAS options present ingame.
Haha, what if we use agm65 to fight 95ya6 and kh38 to fight 146?
My post never commented on AGM-84 class of missiles, so it seems your post replied to the incorrect post.
95ya6 can easily intercept agm65, but 146 is much more difficult to intercept kh38
yes
The Su-34 does have a thermal imager but it’s limited in azimuth because it’s a retractable one between the intakes, while it doesn’t have the full effect of a thermal imaging pod like the SAPSAN-E that should be on the Su-27SM and MiG-29SMT (i’m very salty they chose to implement a 9-19 instead of a 9-18) it is still a thermal imager.
they have just same lock range data.
and you can explain how a GPS guided thing equal to IR guided missile
tbh we dont have any confirmation that kh38 is on the su34, yes we saw kh36 but thats a different thing
Then I think you can also explain why dual-mode guided sulfur can only use lasers
Data? Reality? If you have played it, you will know that it is basically impossible for AGM65D to lock on a moving target at a distance of 10km.
However, even if the target is locked, the AGM-65 fired from 10 km away will have difficulty keeping up with the target at 20 km/h.
KH38 obviously won’t
I have used the agm65 a lot. I launch them from up to 12km out without issue.
Of course cluttered maps with many trees will limit the lock range. But they can lock out to maybe 14km in clear weather on an open map.
Also no aircraft can attack from further than 20km away
apparently no one has heard of the laser guided variant of the KH-38
Well, leaving aside the problem of not being able to lock on due to cloudy weather, the AGM65, launched at an altitude of 2,000 meters at the maximum speed of the F16, would take more than 40 seconds to fly 12,000 meters.
The KH38 is launched at a subsonic speed at a lower altitude of 1,800 meters and can fly 12,000 meters in just 23 seconds.
Are they the same? Are they the same difficulty to intercept? Are they the same pressure on the anti-aircraft vehicles? Oh and don’t forget that the 95ya6 is much better than the vt1