If APHE won't get its realistic nerf.. then it's time to unrealistically buff AP

How about adding a mild incendiary effect?
Even if fragments don’t strike directly, adjusting it so that crew members turn red the closer they are to the shell’s centre should enhance realism.

It’s always been “meh” the lack of armour was too problematic and the good mobility didn’t really change much since you can’t flank with AP.
The only good tactic was playing it like a Nashorn but with only half the damage inflicted.

I mean the fact is that in all my years of WT, i can count on one hand the times that i saw one in actual battle. For me, it’s the same as the AMX 10 ACRA, too many flaws that aren’t even compensated by a good gun.
Also, why choose AP when you have HEAT with the ELC ? It’s better at everything than the AC

adding to AP or APHE ? AP wouldn’t cause a fire if hitting nothing flamable …

That’s just outright not true.

I’d wager that’s because not many people actually play 6.0 France if I had to guess.

Because sometimes you wanted a shell that actually did damage compared to 90mm HEAT.

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Flanking with AP without an autoloader is straight up impossible. I’m gonna need a proof if you want to state otherwise.

You’d be surprised, I see a lot of Jumbo, ELC and TPK, all of which are good tanks, but i almost never see a CA and never saw one performing well yet.

I think i prefer HEAT over AP. AP is supposed to do more damage, being bigger, but in reality i have the feeling it’s the other way around.
AP damage is linked to penetration while HEAT isn’t, AP is often screwed up by volumetric while HEAT isn’t and so on.

How exactly would that proof look? I have used it for flanking without issue but I don’t think you’ll take my personal experience as proof.

Could just be they used it as second spawn and you missed it. I know I usually did so if I played 6.0. I was not at 6.0 because of the lorraine.

And yet I feel as if AP is more consistent than heat.

Dunno lol, replay maybe ? I don’t see a problem with your personal experience but then we’re going to talk about skill and this isn’t really the point. If you’re incredibly skilled you could just flank and hit the ammo every time but that would require an amount of skill and effort that APHE doesn’t need at all.

I usually am on the lookout for tanks on my team, i even start every battle by doing some stats about which br i’m facing in order to tell which rank is the best to play (br wise), but i guess there’s some tool somewhere that shows how much a tank is played ?

I don’t think I have any replays from before the update I’ve not been playing 6.0 much. Also I have played one match since they ruined the mobility and sadly had to take the lorraine out back and put it down after the maiming it received from gaijin.

I never really aimed for ammo (except king tigers of course) and I never really had issues disabling the turret crew and then maybe a second shot to finish off. But I will agree APHE is living life on easy mode.

Yeah you can check statshark. Here is the tanks we talked about for october.





Damn the CA is quite popular as it turns out ! Also very surprised about the Jumbo, thought it would be way higher, K/D ratio is as expected though.

I was right on one point though, the ELC is performing better than the CA. Was this before or after the nerfs ?

The jumbo is the least played in that range. Both the M36 and the EBR have over 200k matches.

Actually not by that much all things considered.

This is for october so before the nerfs

With all those nerfs, just give it APHE and let it be good. It might perform better than the ELC with that.

Honestly just give it a usable reverse gear. That is my main gripe with the changes. You cannot exit a situation and cannot even peek corners or ridgelines because you cannot get back into cover

It is. And it doesn’t just explode on any bush or fence as you fire it.

Anyway, I’ve been spreading more awareness of how busted APHE is right now. It doesn’t make you a popular player in this game, but it is fun.

lmao. Pretty much the only tank with aphe I even play anymore is the char25 and that aphe is busted as all hell

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Did you grab the Char’s partner in crime?

Spoiler

Nope. I have sadly missed both french battle pass tanks. Which honestly sucks because I only really play france and I have the T10A and the centurion battle pass tanks. And I don’t think I have played any of them

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Could we not realistically buff Solid Shot instead? it seems like a smarter idea to me
Especially as it is woefully wrong in game

We can’t, the devs easily could. AP caused significantly more spall back when France was added to the game, for example.

Of course, if the devs wanted to, they could do things right, making all the ammunition do realistic damage. The problem is that it’s work, and since it’s work that wouldn’t generate much money, it’s not worth it. With the game as it is, they sell quite a few premium items, including those that are just the same premium item with a colorful skin.

Ho-Ri Prototype Wiki:

A special feature of the Ho-Ri is its elevating roof armour, to reduce its vertical silhouette, the cannon breech can elevate up, pushing the roof with it, to allow for the -10° depression it offers, this will expose the crew members but won’t be much of a threat as it’s a very narrow-angle for planes to strafe through, and it doesn’t cause the crew to be affected by explosive overpressure.

Meanwhile some vehicle mounted APHE dakkadakka to said gap:

(Turn resolution up if YT plays at 480p)

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