Because…?
Unlike the otomatic the shells on this vehicle are the same lenght wich means it can carry as much as it wants specially since the cannon was initially Made for IFV’s and later modified to be able to use HE-TF,
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There’s no APFSDS limit for 2S38 period.
Just like there’s none for other automatic cannons.
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Thats your subjective opinion.
nope, that’s the result of the 2S38 OP pls nerf thread with its 1000+ comments, the countless spam reddit posts and Gaijins stats
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Which in no way proven either side to be correct.
if something is overpowered there should be irrefutable evidence that can be brought up during a debate of thousand+ comments. Which never happened.
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There were lot of comments explaining by comparison to its peers why 2S38 is undertiered
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Thats your subjective opinion.
lol
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Youre done?
May be a hot take but hear me out
Remove APFSDS, lower to 9.7
That’s all. You basically get the premium Begleit with that
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all for it, but the whiners will still be crying cause their aim wont become magically better
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Maybe
But removing APFSDS wouldn’t make it such a problem to deal with
One hit from 2S38 may very well render your tank useless (damaged breech/barrel and making you unable to fire). This way it wouldn’t be as bad
Even still, 2S38s 57mm gun is better than Begleits 57mm in terms of ballistics. APHE round has better pen at 0° PB and has HE filler. Only thing Begleit is better at is rate of fire.
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However, the change that would actually make destroying 2S38’s easier is having an Asian server, so NA and EU is not full of players connecting from China,Korea, Japan …etc negatively affecting hit detection which makes spammed premium vehicles like the 2S38 a worse opponent to face than what it is.
9.3 at most. Begleit without ITOWs.
Remove HEVT and it goes to 9.0.
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…And there were a lot of comments explaining why it’s not undertiered and worse than certain peers.
And those were backed up by actual data.
I didn’t see anyone that claimed the 2S38 is sooo OP/undertiered that posted a single piece of data or statistically relevant information. I did see people claiming they had crazy stats in the 2S38 - but not a single one of them posted them. I also saw someone imply they would have good stats in the 2S38 because they globally average ~1.3 K/D… for some reason.
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The cannon is more powerful. Slower firing (by 0.2s) but packs more punch than Begleits
Also you overestimate the usefulness of I-TOWs at that BR
These aren’t tandem TOW-2As or top-down detonating TOW-2Bs
Just remove APFSDS from 2S38 and place it at 9.7
There’s no reason to remove the APFSDS, especially since it can and will be equipped with it IRL.
It will never be 9.7 with or without APFSDS. That’d be biased in opposite directions.
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For balancing purposes, Gaijin can do it. Whether they want to? That’s up for debate.
I will admit that I was looking at AB battle ratings where Begleit is 9.7. In RB it is 9.3.
Fair enough then. Remove APFSDS, and place it to 9.7 and 9.3 in AB and RB accordingly.
It would be superb close range anti air, especially with IR tracking.
no
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