Even with something as undeniably game breaking as Kh-38s whataboutism takes the discussion to radar missiles for some reason
You’ve played 15 battles in F16C between now and October, 13 deaths and 12 kills. 35 kills required to break even in KDR. You don’t need to tell outlandish tales of 5 kills with AIM120 to make an argument that it is better. You only reduce your argument when some ol’ mate goes heading off to Thunderskill. I haven’t even used the AIM120, but your gloat of 5 kills got me interested/excited to see how well you were doing… and…
Anyway, I don’t know how Demokrat keeps getting engagement in this topics. He’s either having a big laugh at all of us with joke topics, or he actually believes what he is saying (which would be scary).
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I do not know about Su-34, but those missiles are not good at Su-25SM3 in sim EC mode.
Once I launched 12 (!!!) X-38MT aiming standing tank. Altitude 1km, distance 17km.
Every missile missed the target, causing only “hit”.
Yes, it’s unbalanced. There’s FAR better vehicles, e.g F-5E, just 0.3 higher.
Based upon… What?
Why would you when you have Kh-29Ls and Kh-25MLs?
they are useless without a targeting pod
Laser designator and 3rd person zoom is more than enough to guide them from 5-6km.
I made it up for dramatic effect. anyway here some game plays with AIM120
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/289921257534953822
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/289924989861542640
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/289939532620840161
Here is my replay, at first I threw all the AIM-120s at a distance of 50-40-38km, then I flew and fired 4 AIM-120s at the Eurofighter who was without energy and in limbo, but he just mocked my missiles and just threw back his stick traps and got away from all my missiles, so he released his own and shot me down.
AIM-120 are completely useless missiles, you won’t hit anyone with them even from 10 km.
After the latest update, the AIM-120s are simply useless.
Yeah, like the dokument they got to nerf the AIM-120s AOA generation back in July. /s
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watch my replay bro u are not using it right.
I only watched your first replay and there was close combat everywhere. And we’re talking about long-range combat. I don’t have an F-16, only an F-15C. I can’t maneuver like an F-16, so I have to fire missiles from long distances.
You are firing at targets over 40 km. Of course, they are not going to hit.
You are in a full-down tire, where’s that Eurofighter? And you got killed by an F-15C, the same plane you’re flying.
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You get absolutely mega visibility from 6km and not to mention laser pointer’s FOV is so small that you literally have to look straight at the enemy if you want to keep laser lock. This is only viable if you have no AA enemies on the ground.
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lol I cant see a shit
And this is how much leeway you have before you lose the lock. Missile needs like ~10+ seconds to reach the target from about 5-6km and during that time you’re locked in a pretty much straight flight path towards the target. Something like Strela will eat you alive in this shitbox.
How many times out of 10 do you get crystal clear sky weather?
Don’t ask me, I don’t fly shitboxes in Ground battles.