So when talking about non-US spaa, you talk as if they are great up to their max range. But for US spaa, you talk like they have half range.
su25s dont have any guided ammunition
They do. But the lower br ones cant effectively use them.
oh yeah KH25ml are useless without a targeting pod
I’m sorry, I meant to say LAVAD
Fair.
Still, su25 is going to have to get within range if they want to actually hit stuff with unguided rockets
The R77 is one of the most maneuverable, second only to the French Mika, while the AIM 120, on the contrary, has the worst flight characteristics. Its advantage is only in flight range

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alright im gonna say it again R77 is the one of the worst missiles in the game sure it can pull lot of Gs but it cant even reach 15km. Aim120 can reach over 30km and 35g is more than enough to kill a plane.
LAV can easily deal with SU-25 as it’s limited to dumb ordnance.
Wallis you nerf AASMs as well? Because they’re the exact same thing just a little slower. More range actually.
Provide evidence that 20km is too short for all these IR missiles.
This isn’t World of Tanks.
The R-77 easily covers 20 km, I have been shot down at such a distance. In addition, in tank battles the distance is 10-15 km, but for the AIM-120 you must first capture the target, and this takes about ten seconds, during which time the R-77 or Pansir will shoot you down.
Not saying the KH-38MT’s are balanced, but I love it when US mains complain about their own poison.
LOL what tf are u on. just use TWS . R77 and AIM120 works the same way and whats that 10sec delay 😂
The F-15 radar very often picks up either emptiness or flying missiles, sometimes it locks an aircraft that is located a kilometer away from the aircraft. And if, as soon as you appear, you start shooting the AIM-120 indiscriminately, then with a high probability you will not hit anyone, and also, after nephr, the AIM-120 was reduced in speed, now the initial speed is quickly lost and the plane can easily escape from the missile.
So you agree that the missiles are causing an imbalance? Then do you agree that she should be nerfed?
Yes, the KH-38MT’s cause an imbalance, but the Su-34 isn’t the only jet to do it. Look at the F-15E, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Rafale. It’s just CASCraft in general that cause the GRB imbalance. No SPAA stands a chance against all 4 of those mentioned jets and more.
Have you used the Su-27SM radar? The radar on that thing is a disaster. Be grateful for your actually competent radars.