You got to remember, some of these guys are bad at the game and will blame anything for their lack of skill. Unfortunately people believe in Russian bias and will swear that they are the most OP thing ever. I fight Russians on the daily, they’re the easiest thing to destroy.
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Just annoying as sht to deal compare to other CAS even i have insanely high K/D air kill in Gripen by feeding it no skill KH-38 slinger i still saying this
You can’t go high you can’t go vertical and you have like 10sec or less to respond after they spawn no skill KH-38 so basically can’t wasting times or your team die
Even most KH-38 slinger suck at flying it still annoying af
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F15E could go 13.0 and nothing will change about it. And my boy out here asking for it to be lower to 12.3 , just because one nation have decent SPAA and he can’t point and click people on the ground.
The only diffrent is in spwan points and f15 deserved to be 12.7 in that regard
I just don’t get it. Mavs are incredibly slow and leave a decent smoke trail, besides that they are usually marked on your screen in the pantsir when launched if you have anything locked.
It’s just so easy to shoot them down. Then again I did see some of the players in the squadron I’m in play Pantsir in squadron battles 2 days ago, thinking back to that player it might not be too suprising that a lot of Pantsirs die to mavs.
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No , no it doesn’t. Even with 13.0 it doesn’t change anything to the F15E. Literally cope. the average SPAA still eat shit and nation without a decent SPAA still eat shit , why are we having US main asking for it to lower it to 12.3 is absolutely dogshit take, we need better SPAA for all nation and CAS need to go up , not go down. And you gonna report my reply anyway why bother
Pantsir is way more then enough to deal with it sure 12.3 might be too much but it should stay on 12.7
Sure we need better spaa for all nations exept russia
But by extension it is 100% stronger than almost other 12.7 in CAS and AA. It makes a point if the closest is Su27SM or J11B. However things without bombs are also stuck at this BR.
On the grounds that it is one of 2 highly capable, self-defence, “Strike aircraft” (the other being the Su-34 at 13.0) then it probably should go up despite the minor benefit to having a lower SP cost.
The US, Israel and Soviets get a unique advantage of being able to spawn in a decent multirole fighter (the F-16 and Su-30 respectively) and then respawn again without the increased SP cost by spawning in a strike fighter (F-15E/I and Su-34 Respectively).
This advantage is rather massive. Another nation, such as Germany will spawn in a Typhoon (which I do personally consider weaker at the moment than all other 13.0 CAS, but thats another matter) and then if they wish to bring a second aircraft, their only option is the Tornado ASSTA1. This is repeated for a lot of nations, such as Britain with either the Tornado Gr4 or Harrier Gr7, Sweden with the AJS37, etc etc. The only other nation that has something is Italy with the AV-8B+ but its not even close to the F-15E in terms of either CAS or CAP and is very weak in multirole.
I do also think the F-16C could probably do with being 13.0 as well, and the only aircraft that should be 12.7 are aircraft like the Gripen C which have a stupidly restricted loadout in comparison
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So the F-15E should be 12.7 because of the Pantsir? Okay, so that means the Rafale and Eurofighter should be 12.7 too, since they don’t have Pantsirs in their lineup.
Not so much
F16c is on par might be even better due to the fp
Israel doesnt have good cas like f15i
The f16s missing fnf exept the heavy f16d with gbu15 which are mid and buged
Nato need cas on par with russia i agree
But f16c and f15e arent good as the kh38 slingers
Rafale have hammers and amazing flight performance so ofc it should stay on 13.0
Ef2k can be 12.7 or better solution is to give it 6 ir brimstones and make it 13.0 but that will annoy ef2k players cuz its not realistic
They do have better like Brimstone just gaijin being too coward to give Brimstone FnF
US have GBU 53
Do you mean other than the F-15I?
Just checked and realised the F-16C on the Israeli tree doesnt have triple rack AGM-65Ds so that is my bad.
Nor are the Typhoons, and yet they are at 13.0. If anything the F-15E is actually stronger at the moment.
As i said if u give 6 ir brimstones that seems fair but its not realistic so idk how well it will be accepted
Or they could add SAL-Only Brimstone 2s (which is the earliest version of the Brimstone the Typhoon actually used) which would do as a stop-gap until MMW.
Perhaps throw a few GPS-Only Spear-3s in there for stand off power too
Imo until ef2k will get fnf it should be 12.7
don’t need to limit
The Typhoons should have some form of quantity mitigation and Id rather be soft-limited to 6x FnF Brimstone 2s than be stuck with 18x SAL-Brimstone 1s for all eternity.
The key is to apply a form of mitigation that is fair and doesnt screw the Typhoon (and perhaps more importantly the Tornado GR4) in air modes