I propose to lower the combat rating for the F-15E in Ground realistic battles

No, not really

Sure it may be better than the C, but that doesn’t say much, and it certainly doesn’t beat the competition out massively.

True indeed, i find it rather silly tbh.

U can snipe with russian tanks its just harder to find a good spot

You can theoretically snipe with every tank, doesn’t mean it is good at it. Let me know when you get a 800m elim with the 15cm

I just explained to u why i have this kd to show u that ik what im talking about
And considering i have pretty good kd on other tanks it shows that the merks are bad at least to me
Now this opinion is very common so thats how ik im right

And its very much matters if im a casual or competitve player
Dealing with pantsirs with nato armmament takes skill and alot of it
Maybe u are that good and its not much of a problem for u but for the avarge players its a big deal

U can call it cope or skill issue but thos are facts

The russian arent bad at it and even better then some nato tanks
Just need to find places that fit the russian cons

If you need to have a niche setup in a niche map, it doesn’t make it great at it, it just means you can do it there. I don’t doubt it’s good at sniping, but at top tier, everyone can snipe and, besides the Merkava, excels at it.

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I know the Merks are bad at it, that’s why I said “besides the Merkava”

Oh mb
Tbh the arietes arent great either

The Ariete perfectly represents Italy in WWII: a disappointing German copy

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The gen 4.5s including the f15e shouldn’t have been added to grb yet in my humble opinion on it man.

You’re massively downplaying the F15 C and Es capabilities man.

No it doesn’t man, the pantsir is the best spaa but its not a difficult thing to beat.

Your biggest threat at top tier rn if you are in a plane is another plane since the addition of ARH missilrs.
Stop putting pantsir in this god zone bubble when its easily defeated compared to say, a rafale firing a MICA, an F15 hurlinh an amraam or even a gripen etc firing a R darter.

The f15E has no business in GRB being tbe same br as planes that are worse than it got cas /cap.

But again go off , tell us how pantsir is the most OP nonsense in game

Not its u have rwr so u know u need to notch and it isnt very hard
While pantsir if u fly towards it like 0.2 sec to lock it with a bad agm65 u die

Not true at all man, if you fly straight for 20 seconds or more sure.

Again stop over exaggerating how dominating pantsir is.

Another plane throwing ARHs hell even SARHs at you is massively more threatening.

This also applies to pantsir you can see it on rwr from when you spawn

U dont have lunch detection so its way harder to know when to engage or disengage
And u have no more then 7 sec if u are in 10km which is agm65 max detection range
And in a boat like f15e u berly have the time to lunch more then 2 maveriks
Thats why i think the f16c is better
And ofc the problem only start there cuz the pantsir have all the time in the world to interept it

Okay so read this slowly.

Mavericks can be fired outwith 6km range, they may not land however they provide a distraction.
Secondly you do get a launch warning, you can detect the radar you can detect the launch if its radar slaved.
Shock horror if its not radar slaved then its range isnt as far (last i checked)

Lastly you can certainly get in and out in an F15E/I.
That is just false, i can get a damn A10A in with
mavs, or an A7D in then you can get there in an f15I

Position better after spawn dont fly straight towards the battlefield

Yea cuz a10c is dominating the skies rn

Doesnt matter u need to engage sooner or later

I said 10km and its not rly a distraction when the pantsir can just shoot at it and immediately get back to u or the oppsite

Also idc about your gameplay if u succed killing a pantsir with a10 congrats but it doesnt show about the avrage player

Never said that.

I stated
“If i can get in with an a10a and A7D you can with an F15E.”

Your rebuttle is not constructive and does not dispute what i said at all

What, ofc you engage but just dont fly straight to the battlefield man.

It can shoot at you with very low accuracy

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Then how u engage?
Lunching a mavrik off board?

Haha no

I am literally the average player mate.

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1, its off bore*

2- if you flank around the battlefield especially in a plane thars fast like f15 then you come in from an off angle.

If you just drop altitude then fly *directly * at the map you are still flying straight jsut at a lower alt, and pantsir will have no issue shooting you down.

Alright mate