What ??
The F15E / I is 12.7 in ground and the highest BR is 13 for air craft in ground.
This statement alone tells me what I need to know.
you can out do pantsir with an F4E never mind an F15E.
Stop using it as a scape goat.
The F15E is not a bus… wtf xD
Haha what?
F4 with agm65b with 6 km missiles can out do the pantsir? Lol are we playing the same game?
A decent flarak or ito will beat f4e with no issue
Bruh did u played the f15e? Its hella heavy more so with cas payload
The F4E if you use it properly is fine against all of the spaa.
Only chanting “6km” range of mavericks, doesn’t change the effectiveness of an F4E with them.
also you can lock n launch above 6km just not moving targets which is enough to distract the pantsir.
but aye whatever.
Its also got substantially more powerful engines, im aware its heavier than the A but the engine thrust compensates for that. As well as this it still has a far better flight performance than say, su34, su30, su27, mig29, J11 etc etc etc.
Its a banger of a plane, stop pretending that its not
Easily, I did it with F16A and even F5E, easy enough if u don’t try and throw too many missiles at a time.
Even if u right the fm is not enough
There is a reason why it isnt 13.0 bruh
Thrust make u go fast u know it doesnt makes u more agile and u need good agility to dodge pantsir
U are top tier f104
1.congrats it change nothing
Individuals doesnt matters
2. They are way better airframes
And no one prohibited u from doing that with F4s, nvm F15Es. Extremely easy as long as u don’t go for multiple shots. Pop up and they eventually will fail.
Mf be out here claiming “individuals doesn’t matter” but when the guy start yapping about his own personal experience it count. It is so over
No i cant cuz maveriks are bad and get easily intercepted and i dont wanna sweat my a$$ off in a vehivle that cost more then 900sp against brainless 70sp spaa
And even if i do kill him it takes way too much time and resources
Yea cuz im the only one that thinks the pantsir is op and agm65 are bad
Mf be thinking Pantsir OP because it actually work , instead of just admitting that it is a good enough and useable one. Literally far from broken , no wonder minor nation still get barely nothing. Cause all the Major circle jerking about each other vehicle to ask for their own good instead of the game good. Literally cope seeth and mald , actual CAS player with half a brain cell can wipe the floor while noamax crying about Pantsir OP and AGM65 bad. Cope
No ito and flarak ate usable(against non russian cas ofc)
Pantsir brainless domination and mam u have skill issue if u cant shoot an f4 with ito
U have serious skill issue if u can’t just literally ignore every SPAA with Mavericks. There is absolutely no chance they take u down if u do not fly straight. If that is what u propose to allow F4s or F15s to do, then I have no more to say.
It isn’t 13.0 cause gaijin balances off of the statistical performance of the vehicles.
While yes the KH38 is ridiculous and should be removed, that doesn’t accoutn for the fact the F15E is a substantially better platform than the majority of the roster.
The US mains that bring the win rate of the F15’s down mean it has to stay down, Hence why for a long time the F15A was 12.3 when top tier was 12.7.
It was a lower BR than the mig29 SMT which it was objectively better than in every way bar the lethatlity of the SARH missiles.
which it got aim7Ms at more of them,
so yeah its Br is 12.7 because people are bad with it not because its bad
Massive distinction.
Not how it works at all.
Thrust also allows heavier vehicles to pull more manuevers and maintain speed in said manuevers.
Its still an F15 mate with good F15 avionics
You did not just say the F5E is a wayy better airframe than the F15E???
what
“they are much better airframes” he says in response to a dude saying he can beat pantsirs with an F5E.
Heard it here first, F5E is a better air frame than the F15E…
You don’t have to sweat your ass off, I take an A7D up in my 11.3 -11.7 lineup and do fine with it, so whats your excuse.
No one said pantsir isn’t good, but it doesn’t warrant moving one of hte best top tier cas planes to 12.3 …
It goes Su30/34 - rafale - F15E, you’ve claimed the F5E is a better airframe than the F15
Standard WT but mate, the big 3 nations get all the attention while minor nations crumble to dust.
Type 81 C at fking 11.7 for example xD
All the ITOs are better than the flak btw
Isreal main be throwing around the word “Skill issue” when brub have complained about the mildest stuff ever. Still remember yapping about the amount of Soviet have around 9.7-10.3. Brub not beating the allegations
Its just silly at this point man, dudes barely touched any other tree than isreal, wants the F15I at 12.3 so it can dog on lower BRs.
It already kerb stomps in 12.7 downtiers as theres literally no plane that can contest it for CAS/CAP capabilities.