You can go into bloody orbit and smack a lad with GBU-39s (if a sitting SPAA that’s just waiting for a blink on the radar) or use the AGMs (they have range).
I use the F-15I for hide and seek, I know a wee bit about it.
No u cant
Planes and pantsirs will shoot u down easily
Gbu 39 is not worth the space and the time to kill only one pantsir (and that is only if he dumb and dont move or intercept them)and agm65 are trash with mid seeker and are so slow it takes 30 sec to fly 10km and alot can happen in 30 sec to the target if its not just get intercepted with 0 skill
By any means f15 is not on par with su30/34 on cas role
When it will get kh38 eqivlant u could start talking
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The F-15E is a flying iron, don’t confuse it with the F-15C. The F-15E is not capable of maneuverable combat, and the Grippin is a very maneuverable aircraft, in addition to the 120 it also has the AIM-9M.
More so with big payload its a brick
And at least u get the pay load, not like jets at 12.7that doesn’t even get bombs.
And as for the manoeuvrability, it is not bad. Sure, not as good as some other jets, but plenty against Su34.
And same with the state of all the others. J10 has no FnF weapon, and therefore is a BR lower. A reminder J11A and Mirage 5EI two planes worse than F15E at every single metric, sit at 12.7.
That is, on the lead in the center of the map you will slowly gain altitude, while Su-30, Su-34 and Gripins with Mirages fly around. You will be shot down as soon as you start gaining altitude, and do not forget that most maps do not have such distances for gaining altitude.
Only 6 old mavericks.
I can have alot of payload but it wont help me if its bad payload
I dont mind it siting in 12.7 below the op russian stuff thats make sanse i have problem with pantsir and ppl that thinks its on the same level of su 30
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You’ll be shot down by a Pantsir if you’re just flying straight. Pantsir missiles are useless post-10km. I test this with my friend (he’s a Russian main). The Pantsir is not some scary beast, it’s an SPAA that can shoot you down if you are daft.
AGMs work just fine, just because you are lackluster with them doesn’t make them the worst thing ever. The fact that the F-15E can carry more than four of them at a time makes them far superior to the Grippen and therefore not worthy at 12.7, you can handle yourself at 13.0. Oh wait, Wallet Warriors are at 11.7, you just want to beat up on Wallet Warriors for free RP. You sly dog.
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The thing is, it isn’t. It might not be as good as KH38MT or AASMs, but they are for sure good enough.
Oh yes, so either I get four “very terrible AGMs” or I can carry four AIM 120s (or four R-Darters). Also, do you really think you can survive BVR with only AIM 9Ms? Ah yes, I’m being tracked and have a dozen AIM 120 thrown at me! These two AIM 9Ms will surely protect me!
Like mate, the only thing the Grippen can do is dogfight, but good luck, especially with those evil Pantsirs locking you down.
I mean as a Pantsir you have to play with either your monitor or your brain turned off to get killed by a mav. Sure you might not be able to shoot down the aircraft, but shooting down the mavericks it launched is the easiest thing in the world as a Pantsir.
But this goes for every aircraft with mavs, not just the F-15E.
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The F-15E’s maneuverability is about the same as the F-111F’s, heavy and not agile.
When I switched to it from the F-15C, I realized that it was a completely different aircraft, it often crashes into the ground, unable to pull out of a dive, or cannot turn to follow enemy aircraft. It is a very heavy aircraft that is not capable of maneuvering.
The J10 is a light fighter for close air combat, and the F-15E is a heavy strike aircraft.
You are comparing something that should not be compared.
That is 100% not true. It is sloppy but not to the same extent.
Ur problem. Put on the air breaks for the sake of it. The faster the less manoeuvrable.
And yet the entire thread is about chucking them into the same BR range in a mode built for ground strikes.
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If u want to fire agm65 u need to be in 10km range with the face to the pantsir so it makes thing a tiny bit difficult
just because you are lackluster with the pantsir and u cant lead doesnt mean its not op
And yes agm65 are bad cuz even if they have the enregy to reach the pantsir it has all the time in the world to intercept them
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good enough to force enemy CAP to fly low and can’t do vertical maneuver while skill less KH-38 slinger can gain attitude and do vertical maneuver basically more freedom and advantage they have
any KH-38 slinger that lose to any CAP while having pantsir covering their a*s is big skill issue no exception.
Ah yes, I’m the one with a skill issue. Me and my Pantsir that I’m supposedly in… despite the fact it’s my friend who plays Pantsir. Excellent reading comprehension.
Tell that to the pantsirs that intercept it with one hand in their pants
The same is true for the F/A-18C, it is also at 12.0, can only carry 4 AGM-54G and 2 AIM-9M, and you have to choose between taking the missiles or the AIM-120. But look, the F-15E and F/A-18C are at the same BR, but the F/A-18C can take much less payload than the F-15E, so why are they at the same BR? Because the F/A-18C is a light, maneuverable fighter.
Hmmm, God tier SPAA while running the best CAS… almost reminds me of when the F4S came out and the ADATS was a strong SPAA. My my, I see the Americans do not like it when they are treated the same as they treated others.
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