Mf be out here claiming “individuals doesn’t matter” but when the guy start yapping about his own personal experience it count. It is so over
No i cant cuz maveriks are bad and get easily intercepted and i dont wanna sweat my a$$ off in a vehivle that cost more then 900sp against brainless 70sp spaa
And even if i do kill him it takes way too much time and resources
Yea cuz im the only one that thinks the pantsir is op and agm65 are bad
Mf be thinking Pantsir OP because it actually work , instead of just admitting that it is a good enough and useable one. Literally far from broken , no wonder minor nation still get barely nothing. Cause all the Major circle jerking about each other vehicle to ask for their own good instead of the game good. Literally cope seeth and mald , actual CAS player with half a brain cell can wipe the floor while noamax crying about Pantsir OP and AGM65 bad. Cope
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No ito and flarak ate usable(against non russian cas ofc)
Pantsir brainless domination and mam u have skill issue if u cant shoot an f4 with ito
U have serious skill issue if u can’t just literally ignore every SPAA with Mavericks. There is absolutely no chance they take u down if u do not fly straight. If that is what u propose to allow F4s or F15s to do, then I have no more to say.
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It isn’t 13.0 cause gaijin balances off of the statistical performance of the vehicles.
While yes the KH38 is ridiculous and should be removed, that doesn’t accoutn for the fact the F15E is a substantially better platform than the majority of the roster.
The US mains that bring the win rate of the F15’s down mean it has to stay down, Hence why for a long time the F15A was 12.3 when top tier was 12.7.
It was a lower BR than the mig29 SMT which it was objectively better than in every way bar the lethatlity of the SARH missiles.
which it got aim7Ms at more of them,
so yeah its Br is 12.7 because people are bad with it not because its bad
Massive distinction.
Not how it works at all.
Thrust also allows heavier vehicles to pull more manuevers and maintain speed in said manuevers.
Its still an F15 mate with good F15 avionics
You did not just say the F5E is a wayy better airframe than the F15E???
what
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“they are much better airframes” he says in response to a dude saying he can beat pantsirs with an F5E.
Heard it here first, F5E is a better air frame than the F15E…
You don’t have to sweat your ass off, I take an A7D up in my 11.3 -11.7 lineup and do fine with it, so whats your excuse.
No one said pantsir isn’t good, but it doesn’t warrant moving one of hte best top tier cas planes to 12.3 …
It goes Su30/34 - rafale - F15E, you’ve claimed the F5E is a better airframe than the F15
Standard WT but mate, the big 3 nations get all the attention while minor nations crumble to dust.
Type 81 C at fking 11.7 for example xD
All the ITOs are better than the flak btw
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Isreal main be throwing around the word “Skill issue” when brub have complained about the mildest stuff ever. Still remember yapping about the amount of Soviet have around 9.7-10.3. Brub not beating the allegations
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Its just silly at this point man, dudes barely touched any other tree than isreal, wants the F15I at 12.3 so it can dog on lower BRs.
It already kerb stomps in 12.7 downtiers as theres literally no plane that can contest it for CAS/CAP capabilities.
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I said it compare to f4 not f15 all tho the f5 is pretty good so it is on par with the f15e in therms of dodging sams
Clearly u didnt feel a cas payload f15e
Ok show me how u take a pantsir down when there is a su lunching r77 at u
Ah yes ppl say it
I never said it should be 12.3 just not 13.0
And pantsir is not the factor rn its the fact that there us a gap between the f15e and the kh38 slingers or rafale
Yea i didnt said they warent
How the fact im israel main is related?
And its one of if not the worst nation with paper slow vehicles
And im yapping? Look at u despicable russia hugger that is clearly the best nation in the game
Dont bother to answer keep ur stupid hot takes to yourself i cant debate with an insane person that thinks israel is op
Ok then what am I gonna call you then ? Isreal main got problem with people calling them Isreal main but it is ok for them to call other Russian main.
Didn’t even say this btw, going full schizo putting his words into other mouth (still fumble every turn)
Sure , because the Challies are faster and have armour. Sure , local snowflake fumble at every turn and I didn’t even have to do anything
U saying merks have more armor then challys?
Lamo thx for proving me that you are an insane person
Oh right u are a israel hater
I didnt understand where all this hate comes from now its all clear
Even then the F4E is a substantially better CAS platform than the F5E, due to having more odrenance, more Counter measures, better gun and is faster.
This is just nonsense mate, the F5E has a far lower chance of survival at top tier than the F15E.
especially against sam sites.
Multipath the R77 and try bait the su, they likely overshoot because of how fast they go in comparisson, then the rest is history, do you win everytime, no but if I can make the su miss then fire 2 or 3 mavs at the pantsir in an A7D then you certainly can in the F15E
Im talking about here. Im aware folks say it isnt good, and really its not that good, just other spaa are worse
There is hadlry a gap between them at all, the SU30/34 are substantially worse air frames and worse radars last I looked, while the rafale is better overall.
?? So whats the point in commenting mate, you are claiming the thing shouldn’t be 12.7 so that must mean you want it to be 12.3 xD im also sure you said it above
Did not say this btw , completely ignore that MBT should have more than just armou- Oh wait , you can’t play without armour. Sorry babe , didn’t know you are that bad. Oh wait even in tank that with good armour you still suck. Then what are you good at ? Fumble at every turn ?
You just conviently left them out completely.
Its second worst. the entire area below 11.3 is absolutely brilliant.
The merkavas have worse turret armour and thats it, the CR2’s right now are the worst top tiers.
Worse round
worse reload
wrose ready rack size
worse survivability now adays.
Slower and louder.
Dudes obsession with armour is ridiculous man.
is what it is
And with this I bid it farewell, its total nonsense at this point.
F15E / I Should go up to 13.0 .
they completely dominate 11.7 uptier lobbies and acting like they don’t or some other nation being marginally better mitigates the F15E/I crushing is just silly.
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First of all nice theory its not gonna work most of the time second the pantsir can itercept the maveriks with no issue
Nah it is that good
Su30 have great radar and u dont need great airframe when u have such a broken kit
I dont think i sad it shouldnt be 12.7 only 13.0 and if i said that i take it back
I think the f15e deserved to be 12.7
Armor in an mbt is a big factor and if u dont have armor u should have something else to compensate
The merks have nothing special then other mbts and still having bad armor and massive profile
And funny thing is i perform very well on russian tanks
Coincidence? I think not
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