Haha, this reminds me of some guy XD
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Okay, I accept
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there are no planes with 12 amraams in wt
Thanks. Point still stands. 10 AMRAAM should 100% be the highest BR.
No, compressing the matchmaker both requires more effort as you need to do ALL the work of decompression only to compress the BRs and matchmaker.
Worse idea.
Decompression is both easier and objectively superior.
Not only that but ALL current 14.0s along with F-15C/JM/BazM and J-11B should be the same BR.
There is no notable difference between them that warrants BR differences.
I have thought much the same. Rather than endlessly trying to decompress which to me, sounds an aweful lot like this:
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Reducing the BR range by 0.3 would have basically the same affect without all the issues.
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Did I miss the part in the starting post that 0-4 players are top BR in each team? And so on…
Also, is the term “max/min match time” defined clearly anywhere? What exactly is this, how is it computed?
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I even guessed that you would oppose me, because you opposed another post about matchers in the past.
- I am not against decompression, I even gave my own decompression scheme.
- I want to ask, if all vehicles only fight with vehicles with the same BR as themselves, do you think such a battle is fair and better than the current one?
- If you insist that changing the matcher requires more effort, can you explain it with actual examples? Or write a program like me?
- Even if changing the matcher does require more effort, that is gaijin’s business. gaijin has made a lot of money, so what if he does more?
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This is just a term I defined to show the maximum and minimum time it takes to complete a battle, in a total of ten battles.
If a test includes 3 battles, starting from a certain moment, they take 0.5 seconds, 4 seconds, and 2 seconds to match, then max match time==4s, min match time == 0.5s
A decompressed match maker is superior to a compressed one.
Allow me to complain here about the 12.7-13.0 planes, they are too strong against lower BR planes, too weak against higher BR planes (especially those with fox3), I have skipped them/given up playing them.
But what can be done about that though?
Yes, some decompression can occur, but with the amount of aircraft we have, you could at most increase the BR to about 14.3 or 14.7. Would help sure, but not fix the problem entirely. But that combined with a reduction of MM size to +/-0.7 on top of a 0.3-0.7 BR increase and minor decompress would do quite a bit.
But…
Aircraft like the Gripen A, F-16, F-15A, Su-27, etc should 100% be at the same BR as aircraft like the Sea Harrier FA2 or F-14A.
and more than a few non-fox-3 aircraft at 13.0 would probably move up as well, because they are too strong in a downtier. (fighting F-15A or Su-27s in something like a Phantom sucks)
0.7 MM is definitely one of the best changes gaijin could do. Decompression up to 16.0 would be better, but gaijin completely refuses to do that.
The one downside would be that some vehicles would need to be rebalanced, but the work needed to do that is much less than what decompression needs.
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You refused to answer my question and just threw out opinions. What can I say? Maybe you enjoy the game now.
Well, let’s imagine an extreme case, a very large decompressed match maker, it has a huge ±13.0, all aircraft can fight in it. Yes, this is a decompressed matchmaker, P26 VS Su30SM, CR42 VS EF2000, I-15 VS F15E, etc. What do you think of this? Isn’t it going in this direction to continue to decompress the matchmaker?
In short, I still think that BR needs to be decompressed and the matchmaker needs to be smaller
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I am busy, and my argument stands its ground.
Having 4 positions for vehicles in the matchmaker is superior to having 3 positions, and allows for different vehicles to be different BRs more often.
Otherwise you might get situations where IS-3 is the same BR as Tiger 2.
This is what gaijin should do, even if it requires extra work, it is what they must do to improve the gaming experience for players.
Who would’ve guessed he would do something like that xD
I have been discussing AirRB from beginning to end, not Ground RB. You should not give examples of ground units. If you think my solution is not suitable for Ground RB, that’s fine. I at least support the use of smaller matchers in Air RB.
In addition, are you really busy? I noticed that you often appear in Warthunder Forum, debating with a large number of people in a short period of time. I think you are at least energetic.
The same applies to air RB, suddenly F-16C and Typhoon are the same BR under this system cause there isn’t 4 positions of separation to allow for more diverse BR placement.
Right now we can have Tornado F3, JF-17, F-16C, and F-15C/E all being different BRs.
Under this system, two of those would most certainly share BRs.
There is nothing with 10 AMRAAMs either. (unless you are using AMRAAM as a universal term which would be wrong)
AMRAAM is an American missile and the F-15E can only carry 8 of them without any other ordinance.
But also irrelevant to the thread. Look at his amazing code that could benefit the game with some tweaking.
GREAT JOB!!! @COMBINE
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