desert warrior is just a sad version of the 10.0 bradley, worse gun pen but without an increase in fire rate to make up for it, kinda slower, kinda worse armor
the badger is just sad, its slow for a wheeled vehicle, low rate of fire, and its huge
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Alright, so.
Bradley to Desert Warrior - Slightly less pen on same gun, same TOW access. However, the DW is a smaller target, more agile and doesn’t have to deploy its launchers before firing a TOW - It can fire as soon as it stops with no extra wait. Additionally, it has more hull armor for what that is worth along with composite screens. Neither Bradleys have composite screen protection or access to any of the external armor packages they have access to IRL.
Bradley to Badger - Badger has slighter more pen compared to the Bradley yet lacks ATGM launchers. Badger cannot rotate with neutral steering due to lack of tracks but as a wheeled vehicle has more forward and reverse acceleration compared to the Bradleys. Their size is roughly the same - Height-wise rather than length-wise, however the Badger has far more empty space compared to the Bradleys so a penetrating hit has a good likelihood of doing no significant damage. Badger has less hull armor than the Bradleys and both lack any composite armor add-ons compared to the DW.
Personally speaking I’d rate the Badger higher than the Bradley. When you pen when landing a hit you have higher likelihood of dealing meaningful damage and the extra acceleration and forward/reverse mobility due to the wheels make it easier to pop in/out when engaging. Plus, you can lose a wheel or two and still maintain mobility compared to when losing a track as that leaves you dead in the open.
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the 10.0 bradley has more KE armour protection than the desert warrior, due to the large amount of RHA additional armour
? it has a higher top speed, otherwise theyre at the very least the same
I wasnt even considering comparing the badger and bradley, but everyone I know who has played the badger doesnt want to play it more, which cannot be said for the bradley
Only against heavy MGs, at most. Nothing more.
Nope. Badger wins in acceleration and top speed.
As for the latter comment, there’s a very good reason why Bradleys almost never show up in matches - They’re literal garbage.
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yeah and? not like the composite screens do anything
obviously, its a wheeled vehicle, unfortunately i wasnt talking about the badger, i was talking about the desert warrior
i see bradleys quite regularly
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They can save you from an ATGM, on occasion. Not guaranteed, though.
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You didn’t specify that, though the Brad and DW are about the same.
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Sounds extremely unlikely because I certainly don’t.
id rather be more resistant to heavy MGs which are far more common to see
i shouldnt have had to specify that? i was quoting you comparing the DW and bradley, and yes I know theyre about the same i said that
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Bradleys aren’t all that resistant to HMGs, either. 14.5mms can penetrate the hulls. I’ve experienced it firsthand.
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Yes, as we are discussing 3 different vehicles - 4 if you want to be semantic and include both Bradleys. So specification is important.
Anyways, what it boils down to at brass tacks is unfinished vehicles with artificially nerfed armaments - TOW-2B - fighting in engagements that aren’t viable for them much of the time. Between poor maps and BR compression it can be argued that none of them are worth playing, so they aren’t by the vast majority of players.
The only advice I can offer to the OP is just to skip the Bradleys entirely.
The entirety of tow2b is wrong.
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Tips for Bradley M3A3 - Don’t play like this guy:
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Frontally its resistant to quite alot thanks in part to the engine.
Irl 30mm apt struggles to kill a m2a3 with its BUSK kit frontslly and ot needs sustained fire
The m2a3 is bad but the desert warrior is worse
The desert warrior has better armor though?
Now there might be some discussion about the 10.0 but i will not stand for this slander of 8.7 variant.
Its not without issues, but for 8.7 its kit is kinda goated.
Hold on a second. The TOW-2B’s warhead (I’m aware it’s actually supposed to have two of them) is an explosively formed penetrator, weighs 2.4 kg, and penetrates 100 mm. The RB 56 BILL II has the same type of warhead, which weighs 2.08 kg, but penetrates 510 mm. How is that possible?
I play it more like a support vehicle.
Park behind a hill, hop in commander sight, spot and spam TOW-2B. In a direct 1 on 1 fight you will almost always lose against an MBT thats aware of you.
i can agree the 8.3 is alr bc of the lack of armor at the br.
Yeah, the 10.0 one is pretty awful honestly. The 8.3 one was decently fun but I really dont enjoy the 10.0 one.
I found it ended up just being easiest to take the TOW-2Bs, sit below a ridge, and fire them at people behind cover for the top attack. You dont have to expose yourself much for it and you dont have to wait for them to expose themselves.
Then just gun down anyone you get convenient side shots on.
Take another vehicle on close range city maps or maps where you cant find good hull down spots.
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Unfortunately for the in-game Brad it doesn’t have the BUSK kit. It would be nice if it did.
I’m gonna disagree.
Lmfao. Gotta disagree. It’s basically the same kit with zero benefits because Tow-2B is borderline worthless.
Because Gaijin refuses to re-code the TOW-2B penetrators correctly and while at the beginning they worked like they were supposed to they got ahistorically nerfed into oblivion because of IvanBoos screaming bloody murder that their overperforming armor was getting absolutely ganked by top-attack munitions.
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Because gaijin doesnt want to for some reason. Tow2b should be unaffected by eoof era and it should do at the very least double the damage it does