Just found it, check page 73
Also nothign there, can you just send a picture of what you mean?
Sure give me a moment
Soooo, how is it going?
Its a very large book give him time
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Coming back to this cause they are talking about it in Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2) L28
Isnt the L28 an export round for oman which uses tungsten instead of DU because its harder to export tungsten and for environmental concerns? Isnt the L28A1/A2 a steel/inert training round that matches the L27A1/charm 3 so they dont have to use DU shells for training? Then the L29 is a steel/inert training round to match the L26/charm 2??
If so, why would we want them over the Charm 3? how would they pen more if they are not DU and mostly steel or tungsten and used for training??
As of 2021 they use only charm 3 for combat?
In game?
iirc, L28A1 has a higher velocity than L27A1 and in Gaijin’s calculator that might result in more pen as im not sure if they factor in material properties. Only velocity, dimensions and weight.
IRL. L27A1 is more than likely superior at most ranges (iirc there is a specific range where the velocities work out that L28A1 has slightly better pen to L27A1 or something, but its incredibly niche, I think it was near point blank range)
material density is required for Lanz-Odermatt to work, I can’t remember the exact figures but Gaijin do use different densities for DU/Tungsten rounds (DU being better iirc)
Density and thus weight yes, but I dont think they model thigns like DU self sharpening or incindiary properties.
Tungsten Is actually more dense than Uranium, though its usually a Tungsten alloy, not pure tungsten so I have no idea what it actually is on the round.
But the question is, in the Lanz-Odermatt equation, is any difference in weight canceled out by the difference in velocity I believe does exist (1450m/s for the DU and 1650m/s for TA iirc)
Would be interesting to see someone do the maths.
Goddamn
I saw, though not sure what it really gives us.
We knew L28A1 was an option, but remains to be seen if it would actually be better, worse or the same as L27A1 and thus whether its worth putting any effort into acquiring.
Unless Ive missed something
Just ive seen some people say l28, then L28a1 and L29 and people not know what each is for so i thought id give a proper answer from the most reliable source.
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Ah right, yeah, it does do that
Do you have a link to the original source?
Does add to the confusion about L23 though:
Interesting that they don’t just say L23 and L23A1 are the same thing.
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thanks
Yh its just in game they are presented different depending on if you want more penetration at angles. The MoD are obviously not gonna just splurt out all the information, they are going to give out minimal information and word it confusingly so its left open to interpretation. If you want clarification, let me know i will replay back to them and ask.