@SemiPartician can you post that page?
AFAIK it has around 180
Thanks for the exact number
Let me find it again
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fuck my bad, it’s page 30 iirc
I see nothing about the rounds on the page 30
well then my mind is wrong
dude…
You know that with that you have nothing, you cant just say L27A1 is the same length as L28A1 or L29A1. If we could just do that we would have done so. Yes both L28A1 and L29A1 are 660mm, but for the devs it means nothing.
Just found it, check page 73
Also nothign there, can you just send a picture of what you mean?
Sure give me a moment
Soooo, how is it going?
Its a very large book give him time
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Coming back to this cause they are talking about it in Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2) L28
Isnt the L28 an export round for oman which uses tungsten instead of DU because its harder to export tungsten and for environmental concerns? Isnt the L28A1/A2 a steel/inert training round that matches the L27A1/charm 3 so they dont have to use DU shells for training? Then the L29 is a steel/inert training round to match the L26/charm 2??
If so, why would we want them over the Charm 3? how would they pen more if they are not DU and mostly steel or tungsten and used for training??
As of 2021 they use only charm 3 for combat?
In game?
iirc, L28A1 has a higher velocity than L27A1 and in Gaijin’s calculator that might result in more pen as im not sure if they factor in material properties. Only velocity, dimensions and weight.
IRL. L27A1 is more than likely superior at most ranges (iirc there is a specific range where the velocities work out that L28A1 has slightly better pen to L27A1 or something, but its incredibly niche, I think it was near point blank range)
material density is required for Lanz-Odermatt to work, I can’t remember the exact figures but Gaijin do use different densities for DU/Tungsten rounds (DU being better iirc)
Density and thus weight yes, but I dont think they model thigns like DU self sharpening or incindiary properties.
Tungsten Is actually more dense than Uranium, though its usually a Tungsten alloy, not pure tungsten so I have no idea what it actually is on the round.
But the question is, in the Lanz-Odermatt equation, is any difference in weight canceled out by the difference in velocity I believe does exist (1450m/s for the DU and 1650m/s for TA iirc)
Would be interesting to see someone do the maths.
The L28A1 and L28A2 is the same length as the L27A1. They are made to be the exact same just without DU. If they were different length then it would make a pen difference. And its an inert practice round, its made of steel, not even tungsten like the L28 oman export.