+1, I actually suggest a Romanian subtree many months ago (before the Hungarian tank line was introduced to the game), now that Italy has a major Hungarian subcomponent I support the Hungarian subtree in Italy. However would still like the idea of mixing in some unique Romanian aircraft such as the IAR-80/81, IAR-93 and MiG-21 LanceR
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I didn’t forget it, I just replaced it with the MiG-21PF as it is slightly more unique than the F-13 which is already in-game. There are already enough copy-paste Soviet fighter jets in this subtree, and enough at the 9.0-9.3 BR range, so I didn’t include the F-13, but I am aware of Hungary using it.
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Yes, I saw this post, but the smallest bombs in WT are 10 kg and 50 kg bombs. 2 kg anti-personnel bomblets are not on any plane in WT, so I figured that there is not much point in mentioning them.
I have found a few Hungarian aircraft that might be worth adding.
First would be the AVIS series of biplane fighters and specifically the AVIS 3. They would be on the lower end performance wise and most similar to the He 51 being mixed construction biplanes armed with 2 light machine guns and a top speed just over 300 kmh.
There is also another variant of the Me 210 that was tested with the Turul radar set.
It might also be worth considering a Hungarian He 112 which while technically ingame already is hidden in the German tree with no current way of buying it. It also has incorrect guns from what I’ve seen as it most likely did not have the 20mms and had 8mm Hungarian machine guns instead of the mg 17s. There was also a proposal to arm it with “20mm Danuvia” guns which I can not find much info on other than that they fired the same ammunition as the Solothurn AT rifle.
Also just for completions sake some of the Hungarian Cr.32, Cr.32bis, and Cr.42 planes had Hungarian 12mm guns. That wouldn’t add much to an Italian subtree though.
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I’ve heard of the AVIS fighters, but I decided not to include them because I think they are a bit too old and weak, even for 1.0, but if they are actually good enough to be added as 1.0s, then I hope that they are added.
The Me 210 Ca-1 that I included mentions (and I intend that it receives) the Turul radar set.
Yes, I’m aware of the Hungarian He 112 Bs. I didn’t include one because it is technically already in the game. With that said, I think the one in game should be changed to have the guns that the Hungarian He 112 Bs had in real life, although I’m not entirely sure which guns were where, but I do know that the Hungarian 8 mm machine guns were the Gebauer 1939Ms. Also, it should be moved into the Italian tree and become available somehow.
I already included the Hungarian-modified CR.32 and CR.42.
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Good afternoon, during research I had come across this sole Yugoslav Do 17 Ka-2 captured by Hungary and modified with their own equipment like GKM machine guns. I’ve used it as a premium for the Yugoslav tree, but you may find it useful too. Admittedly its main role was recon, but it should still be able to drop bombs.
The Hungarians also captured a Yugoslav Blenheim Mk I, and in fact it happened to be the one upgraded with domestic armament, but they disarmed it and used it as a transport so less grounds to add it in-game.
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I really hope that we get a new top-tier premium fighter jet before or alongside the Hungarian Gripen, cause i really don’t want to spend money on that TAF flying brick. I played the Tornado enough to know how it feels to not be able to turn and not have a lot of countermeasures.
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Yeah, I played the F-104G and decided that I never want to play another F-104 again. I hate being a flying brick that gets chased for the entire battle without any ability to dogfight.
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Recent reliable leaks showed a Hungarian Air tree coming next patch so im hoping its the same as this or as accurate as it can be to this tree
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Thanks for telling us, I checked out the leak and parts of it are already true. Hopefully it is true and it will be added soon, and I sure do hope they use my subtree as a guideline/inspiration, as I took my time to design it in the best way that I could, and it would be a shame if they add a poorly executed version of the tree, like how they added the Hungarian ground tree with loads of vehicles missing, huge gaps, and illogical additions that could have been replaced by more interesting stuff.
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Nobody forgot it. It’s just a bad plane that’s all
I already have a few Hungarian planes for Italy and I am happy with that. I like my Hungarian Me110 and 109 premium and used the additional Hungarian decals for them. They look good and show Hungary’s Involvement in WW2 but I don’t feel I need many more to be honest.
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Neither the MiG-19PM or MiG-21PF were armed with cannons, missile only. This would make them pretty bad in-game.
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The Sea Vixen doesn’t have cannons either and only has missiles instead, and it still is a very good jet. Besides, would you rather have new and more unique variants of these jets or better but copy-paste existing versions?
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Ok, but how exactly is that a reason why a Hungarian subtree shouldn’t be added?
-Firstly, not everyone has the premiums that you have, so some people would be happy to be able to get researchable Hungarian aircraft for free.
-Secondly, how do a few German aircraft with Hungarian markings mean that somehow we shouldn’t have the actually Hungarian-designed and made aircraft? Surely the indigenous Hungarian aircraft are more important than the German premiums with Hungarian markings that we currently have in-game.
-Thirdly, the more aircraft are represented in-game, the better, right? How exactly would it be bad to add Hungarian aircraft?
-Fourthly, how do you propose Italy gets a rank IV and rank V bomber? How about a rank IV and rank VII striker in the strike aircraft line? Or more top tier fighter jets that aren’t American? Do you really think Italy shouldn’t benefit as a tech tree from a Hungarian subtree, just because you already have a few premiums with Hungarian decals on them and you personally don’t want to see more Hungarian aircraft? What about what the rest of the player-base might want?
To be honest, I don’t think it’s fair to criticise a whole subtree suggestion just because you think two or three German aircraft with Hungarian markings are enough for you and you don’t need any more. Simply don’t research them if you don’t need more, but don’t prevent the rest of the community from receiving them just because you personally aren’t interested in grinding them.
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A tech tree for every nation is going to be hard to implement and that is really what you are saying. Everybody wants their own country in the game.
I’m not sure where your confusion set in, but the OP is very clear in stating he wishes for a sub-tree, and a proper one at that.
Italy already has Hungary as a ground sub-tree, I don’t see why you’d be opposed to them receiving the aviation side of things as well.
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What do you mean a sub tree ?
Hungary simply being a line in the Italian tree?
That is literally what this suggestion is about…
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Which other nation already has that ? Uk has SA but its not separate. Italy already has some Hungarian units what are you on about?