Hull Armor of the M1 Abrams

That dash above E means it’s the new one.
Also “U” is for DU on US M1s and “M” is for non-DU or Mixed ones.

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Yes indeed

The front of the sight housing for the PNM-T is clearly not flat, I don’t see why the shadow is just “photoshop”.
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I guess time will tell what this really is, no sense in continuing this arguement over a single picture that is not high quality and prone to artifacts.

Like I said before, it worked quite well during the review bomb. I literally think raising hell is a better route

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I was linking to the thread, didn’t have any intention of linking to your comment specifically. My bad.


E for improved FMS armor package…So similar to AU Abrams

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It’s photoshopped.

well someone submitted a freedom of info request about this so hopefully gaijin will get an undeniable source that the abrams does indeed have the hull inserts.
https://forum.warthunder.com/t/i-submitted-a-foia-request-to-the-dod-to-get-infromation-confirming-that-the-sep-v1-and-v2-should-have-increased-du-arnor-i-will-continue-to-update-about-its-progress-down-below-gaijin-wont-be-able-to-refuse-this-source-goodbye-russian-bias/59517

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Agava 2 behold that 4k resolution…

people try to hide the truth

Seems like all Russian thermals have the same resolution as those Bigfoot videos you see on youtube.

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M1128s saw very limited service in a very small amount of numbers, and after 20 or so years is already being phased out.
The OH-58D, as said, was used for 2 years in American service in limited quantities.

But cool, you pointed out 2/12. What a response!

And believe it or not, the canadian version is in game! It doesn’t go to America, though!
Care to explain America’s version?

The 2S38 finished its development almost 4 years ago, what are you talking about? It’s already commissioned for service with the RF.

The ADATS already has the edge of a smokeless motor over both the Pantsir and ItO 90, with the Pantsir having the longest range / lowest performance and the ADATS having both mid-ground range and average performance. All the ItO has over either is overload.

I’m not arguing anything on the existence of the OH-58, though the D was almost entirely used for export and very limited American operation before they were discontinued.

This is entirely false. The Kiowa Warrior was flying for the US Army for years, including in the 90s while my dad was flying them at Ft. Rucker. You might be thinking of the OH-58F, which was the cancelled modernization program from the 2010s.

Edit: not to mention the fact the Kiowa Warrior 100% provably saw actual combat service in the middle east. Not really sure what straw you’re grasping at.

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It would be a lot better if you didn’t just straight up lie on here.

Okay so you think the armor inserts on the M1A1 could possibly be of two different materials and design. Okay let’s just think about that for a minute. If the 360mm armor array in the hull was just as effective as the 800mm armor array you were putting in the turret. Why on earth would you not just put the same armor arrays from the hull into the turret. Same effectiveness, but probably less weight! Hopefully you get the point. It just doesn’t make sense, but this is the way Gaijin has decided to make it in their video game.

Yeah, here’s the real voice. If u want to see wants player wants dont check the comment under the News, check the Fourm

Im jsut wonder, if U guys wont make any different in VIII rank, why update that? Just to sell new veichle? If there is no new stuff just for the new veichle is that means the ground veichle are already ended?

Already posted some of these but gonna put this all in a single post rather than scattered around so

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When the CG shifted from the extra armor and the 120 on the testbed the engineers didn’t curl up in a ball and say it can’t be done, they strengthened the front torsion bars.
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When the M1A2 rolled around they planned to take its heavier torsion bars and retrofit it to the heavier armored M1A1’s
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When the US needed a new cheaper bridge layer they took a M1A1 hull, slapped M1A2 suspension on it and put a folding 14 ton bridge on top.
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You know the M1150 assault breacher vehicle made from older Abrams, the thing with a massive 15 foot plow that scoops up over a foot of dirt?
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They upgraded those with M1A2 suspension and specifically called out its ability to handle front end load.
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The original suspension wasn’t happy but was capable of carrying a plow that weights thousands of pounds strapped to the front plate alongside using it to push tons of dirt so gaijin would really like us to believe heavier armor engineered into the hull would stress the front torsion bars?

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Oh no worries

So, all the sources you, GAIJIN devs, rely on have been proven invalid. Do you have anything else to prove what you believe in? Also, For the numerous materials provided by players, you can not make an explanation?

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