Okay somebody explain to me how this is possible. The armor in the turret on the M1A1 is modeled with 800mm of NERA elements, the hull on the same tank has 360mm modeled. Yet you get the same line of sight effectiveness of the armor. Would not having more than double the NERA in the turret versus the hull increase the effectiveness? I would think it would be at least twice as effective, but it seems to be coded in a way that doesn’t make sense.
If you look at the M1 Abrams in game, it has 360mm of NERA in the hull and turret, but somehow the turret is less effective in line of sight protection.
Has anybody here ever head the quote from Archimedes; “Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it and I shall move the world”? The lever is the hull, the fulcrum is the suspension. Adding DU to the hull breaks the tank significantly faster which is why only documents show only 5 were produced back in the 1980ties.
Maybe they changes structural array in armour itself, added DU insert doesn’t mean that whole array is DU monoblock. They could have change it’s array, add more plates that gives actual protection the same how Soviets changes they UFP armour array from the first 80/105/20 to array we have on B3 or T-90. Idk. Gaijin is blind and they even stated that M829A3 would have any effect on SEPv2 performance. If they wanna give up actual armour improvement they better model M829A3 and it’s anti ERA capabilities properly. They gave us 1 sec or realod faster but they know that first time you peek over the Hill with Abrams, your gunner and commander is instantly “unconscious”.
The irony of the “”“premoderated”“” comments all praising Gaijin for their transparency lmao.
Also I like how I didn’t comment on any post in weeks but somehow I’ve “reached my comment limit for the day”
Yeah nice transparency deleting everyone who calls you out
Joined 48 minutes ago? Another Gaijin employee attempting damage control? Why are you ignoring the proof already supplied that the suspension was upgraded?
No offcause its not a mono block. My belief is that they buffed the hull from 370 to 380 going from M1 to A1 and probably a little more on SEP. But there are plentry of real iasues with the armor model, like the missing 1,5 plate on top of the fuel tanks that is easy to see in photoa of the driver compartment, or the 50mm protection level on the neck completely forgetting the turret ring sitting behind it. Or the depth of the right turret cheek and the GPS hole etc.
Everyone with iq above room temperature knows that they did this because “balancing reasons”. They just needed an excuse as to why not add that buff so they pulled out and outdated and removed info from their ass. Then said take that -1s reload and shut up. I bet they aint adding that m829a3 and if they will it will be downgraded dart with same pen as dm53
Cool Still don’t trust someone who just joined, considering you still haven’t supplied a source to your prior points which makes me trust you even less
What documents? The only documents I have seen that mention 5 hulls is the one from 2006. And it is referencing DU in the hull. Those 5 tanks were probably used for research into the effects of the radiation the crew would receive from adding DU to the hull. The turrets already had DU in them by this point. I think that’s pretty undisputed. The community provided, in this thread, the amendment to that document which came out a couple of months later to allow the US military to produce hulls with DU as needed. So obviously, this was changed because the extra radiation from DU in the hull must have been acceptable levels for crew safety. Seems like you would not take the time to make an amendment to the document if you were not going to produce more hulls with DU in them. I guess the real question is can we find a document that connects these dots to the M1A2 SEP or the M1A2 SEP v2.
You can see the mention of the SEP program incorporating DU. The budget forms shortly after the license was amended literally show Department of Energy armor used in frontal upgrades. Along with the VA memo stating that A1 and A2 hulls manufactured since 1998 had DU hulls. Other documents point out about improved hull protection as well. Then we have the books that support this.
