Hull Armor of the M1 Abrams

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The aircraft never flew with any armament or sensors… just wooden mockups and empty space.

Somehow it ended up with them in game…
Abrams upgrade prototypes being tested with armor increase weight simulators:
Obviously didn’t happen.
Yak-141 flying around with a wooden radar, no IRST, and wooden weapons:
Obviously it would’ve happened in production.

The copium here is Gaijin’s. (And it seems also yours.)

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You have to remember, gaijin is in the real of " belief now " whatever they believe to be true, must be true! oh and russian bias

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I 100% agree. It would also help a lot.

I respect that they still celebrate their traditions and stuff, everyone should be able to do that. And knowing that they have fixes for the Abrams planned in the short term planning would be enough for me personally for a while.

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Fix the bloody Challenger 2s aswell…

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Just read the book of ORR Kelly (published in 1989) and here is what I found:

  1. Statistics that were used while deciding where to concentrate the new type of armor, which show that the importance of frontal protection of the turret and the hull are roughly equal, just a 3% difference. (40% and 37%)
  2. The weight added by the implementation of DU armor. Here it’s well said that the relatively low amount of DU was used for each tank, and the weight increase just in case of the armor was around 1 ton, so all the Gaijin assumptions regarding the front suspension overload is unrealistic and irrelevant. Also, the fact that on the outside there are no visual changes supports this statement.
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yup, and gaijin did all of this on purpose, hell the KA-50 is sitting at 11.0 with the 2S6

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Just saying, active duty military casually mentions Ukraine not getting the DU HULL in the donated M1A1 Abrams.

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Yeah because they’re exported. To date the US Army has never exported their DU armor.

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exactly, it just proves even further that they do have DU armor in hull otherwise.

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Oh, thought you were saying the M1A1 SA doesn’t get DU armor (it does)

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My opinion. M1a2sep and sepv2 has DU in the hull. Spall liners are not present, however I do think the material they are using does reduce spalling. The crew also has anti spalling vests so yeah

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No

“Nato tanks bad”
-Source: Gaijin

Every other source even the manufacturer itself: not a reliable source

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Pretty much, same how they deny RAF sources for the Skyflash (“DF”)

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when/where?

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I hope they make a change.

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Lord its been a while now thats back when the AIM-7F was still pretty new

Iirc it was an FGRs manual

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The abrams officially never had a spall liner because of the 2 ton added weight. While they did propose it, it was never implemented. But I mean they make up stuff for russia all the time so I dont know anymore.

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2s6 is at 10.7, but the otomatic is at 11.3. Balance in thos game is a fing joke

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And HSTVL is 11.3 while 2s38 is 10.0

And ADATS is a bad SPG that can kill planes at half the range of the Pantsir but the same BR with 4x the spawn cost

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Wdym, Italy is just a Hungarian sub-tree, of course its not as important!

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