yea russia gets spaa’s that can actually lock helicopters farther than 2 miles while the closest thing the us has to that is the m247 and even that’s sketchy
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Just spawn if your team is losing, as the enemy team is advancing, maybe they’re not going to spawn anti air.
But those are specific case scenario. They may not spawn a anti air but a aircraft which is even worse, specially when you’re replenishing ammo or repairing.
One of the idea of the Kamov is the complete opposite: close combat.
But since you have access to Vikhr, why put yourself in risk. I mean depends on what you’re flying, Ka-50 needs to stay near as the low zoom multiplier optics doesn’t really helps at distance.
Ka-52 is the big prize for the time grinding this, decent optic zoom for its BR.
Welcome to helicopters.
Just like with Ka-52s, all other helicopters cannot hover without being shot down.
SPAA is OP compared to all helicopters in the game.
The only way any helicopter pilot does well is by avoiding SPAA; that includes Ka-52s.
Didn’t know USA was Russia… oh wait, it isn’t.
Please don’t come in and start implying ADATS, Crotale, etc are all Russian; at least I hope you knew they existed prior to your comment…
Eh, the Stormer is a decent anti heli spaa, although it’s not exactly long range
I guess there’s a few more, like ITO 90M and FlarakRad, ADATS, they work decently against helicopters
The biggest problem IMO is that these SPAA are rarely spawned. I guess people either don’t own them, don’t bring them in the lineup, or choose not to spawn them.
SPAA rewards are poor, and I bet most people would rather drive their MBTs. For someone to spawn SPAA, it has to be effective enough to warrant your time, or the only option you have left. Considering that, I can understand why there’s so many Pantsirs, and so few other SPAA being used
The Zulu can rock the Mk.32 FFAR’s, right?
Just checked, it can’t. I’d personally use the APKWS Hydra-70’s over the hellfire, but, the hellfires are almost a garunteed 1 shot (Cough cough, I hit a leo 1a5 with 3 9M127’s yesterday and It still didn’t die)
Always carry the AIM-9M’s on your outboard, stay light, stay mobile, and right now there is a bug, that if you get hit by a single 7.62, your useless as far as fighting back goes.
Umm, are we playing the same game? Try to do this in any heli and you will die in like 10 seconds lmao
Its map dependant. Some maps allow you playing smart, fire good shots out of terrain cover, out of firing arc from enemy SPAAs (which are mostly at spawn). Some maps just allow the all or nothing approach: Spawn the closed helipad, hoover up, switch to ATGM view and shot as fast and as long as you can to nuke some targets and hope there’s no russian SPAA spawned.
Also keep in mind that some helis allow you to exploit third person view to guide ATGMs whiile you’re totally behind cover and safe. You see Mi-28 players do that often. Dunno whether other models allow this too. Its funny to watch the replay. How they hit target after target while beeing behind a rock formation or building etc.
I literally did this in a match with the KA-50 a few days ago and got 3-4 kills, an Abrams, and I believe it was 2 M-1128’s, then a plane.
Ok, i mean when there is no spaa up sure literally every heli can do it, but it just doesn’t work overall.
Just stop saying this bs that only kamovs can do it xd
Yeah, other helicopters can do it, it’s just way easier in the Камов helicopters because the Ataka and Vikhr are faster than BGM-71 and AGM-114
Which is… surprisingly often with BLUFOR teams
That’s one of my main points in this thread, soviet team has good SPAA and players spawn/use them, while sadly western teams have mediocre to bad SPAA and don’t spawn/use them
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Always an issue 😒
Not that NATO SPAA systems are bad, it’s just that people never spawn them.
That’s really interesting, why do you prefer APKWS?
I never tried them because it seemed to me just a small SAP warhead with little filler, maybe good against light targets but not much else?
I know there are variants IRL with proxy fuse, heat warheads etc. but those aren’t in game yet
There are two versions to my knowledge, it’s because you get a ton more, they are, generally, faster than the BGM and AGM, and have similar range to the Vikhr.
Hmmm makes sense, I’ll have to figure this out over time. Can you name some heli friendly maps off the top of your mind?
Oh, so far I’ve always spawned on the furthest pad, and immediately left it flanking off to either side. I figured the closest spawn was too obvious. AH-1Z also has awful zoom options, either too little or too much, so at that close range I’d have a hard time I think
You need to use hills if there are any and utilise the roll rate & inertial guidance of the hellifires. You can’t do much anti air work with western helicopters but either way most air will be on your side so it isn’t that big of a deal. As far as heli vs heli goes forget it.
If you want to take my advice (I have limited experience using western helis), target enemy sams as much as you can, leave the MBT for the end or completely. The pansir gets overwhelmed fast due to it’s buggy tracking radar. This will greately help the mostly braindead USA cas players do their job.
It’s the opposite. In a situation where zero spaa the AGM-114 are better. You can spam missiles every 2s - 3s and redirect them to new targets.
Если вы правильно рассчитаете время запуска между целями, то сможете направить одну цель на цель, как только она пройдет 2/3 пути, держите захват, а одну цель поразите, переместите целеуказатель на другую цель.